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Friend: Tell me we live in a fascist country, without saying we live in a fascist country
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I support Plasticine Action.
I also support Plasticine Action.
So, call a group a terrorist group, and they lose all their rights.
Correct. And when the mean terrorists suddenly become useful to you, declare them a splinter faction, take them off the terrorist list, put them in a suit and warmly receive them when they visit your presidents.
Literally yes.
Fascists LOVE this one weird trick!
For such a long time Trump railed against antifa calling it a terrorist organization. Any protest he didn’t like was labeled as antifa, allowing him to use full force in breaking up protests. Meanwhile antifa wasn’t a real thing.
Now I want a plasticine action t-shirt. Surprisingly easy to find: https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirts/plasticine-action
About five minutes later, the arresting officer approached him again. “He said: ‘I’ve got good news and I’ve got bad news.’ I said: ‘What’s the good news?’ He said: ‘I’m de-arresting you.’
“And I said: ‘What’s the bad news?’ He said: ‘It’s going to be really embarrassing for me.’ And then I walked free, while all the real heroes are the people that are actually getting arrested.”
The reall heroes indeed. Still this Chad got to draw some needed attention to the outright stupidity of it all...
I mean, embarrassing actions tend to do that.
Interesting that this guy was able joke about it, that's not really the personality I was expecting.
'It's going to be really embarrassing for me'
"As it should be, you fascist pig"... would have been my reply.
Someone should start selling t shirts that look similar to reach other but of different subjects so then cops there have a hard time telling the difference. My proposals are:
Palepstein Action: Release the Epstein Files
Palworld Action: Screw Nintendo
Plasticine AcTiON₂: Stop Petroleum Pollution
Palladian Action: Preserve Classical Architecture
Paladin Act20n: The Best DnD Class
Pallial ACTON: Wear Helmets, Ride Safely
Ballantine Attraction: Visit Yellowstone
Palestine Paction: 1947 British Mandate Period
Pastime Abstraction: Netflix and Chill
Someone should start selling t shirts that look similar to reach other but of different subjects so then cops there have a hard time telling the difference.
After the bill banning their organization was signed, Palestine Action changed its name to "Yvette Cooper", the Homeland Secretary who authored the bill.
I think it would be great if at the next protests the crowds were filled with these nonsense t-shirts and signs to waste the police's time. It is completely legal to protest a proscription order so I don't think they have any legitimate grounds to arrest anyone. And if they do, they look very silly.
Palladium Action: Require catalytic converters for every car made after 1993!
Palpatine action: Lay with the Sith
Palpatine Action: Do it.
Palpatine Action: Let the hate flow through you
It'll be a good litmus test. Will they start banning anybody wearing shorts remotely close to the Palestine action? They either have to lean into fascist or dip back out of it.
Anybody taking odds?
I could set up a website selling these at cost to test it out
Palletline Action
As much as the US is fucked and how much we hear about how it’s fucked, it feels a little bittersweet to see other developed countries’ governments fucking up just as bad. The fact that you can’t protest about Palestine is asinine.
The US and UK have been in an arms race to see who can tank their country the fastest for quite some time now.
Britain has been using the Troubles for a long time to justify all manner of perverting freedoms and rights. They're not far behind China in surveillance and suppression.
They’re not far behind China
They're leagues ahead. We just don't like to acknowledge it, because they're White Westerners rather than Evil NonWhite Communists.
I'm a naturalized immigrant and loudly anti-regime online. Just today I had two people tell me to "go back to China and see how long you last criticizing the government there"(ironically they never seem to realize that they're advocating for Chinese style authoritarianism under trump), and "Get out of this country you commie."
Most non-POC simply don't understand this reality of racism and tension in this country. It's the definition of privilege. Not needing to think about how police forces or others will react to you because of the color of your skin.
This is just normal treatment of any kind of POC in a western nation in the modern day. Getting randomly screamed at, assaulted, or reported to the police entirely due to skin color and accent.
It's kind of grating that it's so bad in the United States that people start applauding the EU doing stupid shit too.
We should be united against this stupid shit, not laughing at each other over our particular forms of suffering.
In hindsight, when George W. Bush realized he could reuse the "terrorist" label to infringe on country's and people's rights, that's when the whole descent into fascism started.
It started when we designed economic and political systems that pools power in fewer and fewer peoples hands. Bush Jr and his actions are just a symptom of the problem.
9/11 was the beginning of the end of the West.
Bin Laden would be so proud. Converting the west into an authoriatarian dream and in the case of the USA, even with a strong religious taste.
The judicial coup that brought Dubya to power was the beginning. 9/11 was just a convenient pretext but the surveillance state and the undermining of civil rights was always going to happen.
Brooks Brothers riot... No we can't count the presidential election votes because there's dudes in suits jumping around yelling outside
That gave the fascists a potent tool that they would use to great effect, but the seeds were planted way back with Nixon's Southern Strategy.
I keep seeing this conversation happen. The eternal contest of "who can connect the dots back the furthest without sounding ridiculous" must have occurred in nearly every conversation among learned people who have had the occasion to bemoan present circumstances, which has been almost continually - presumably even in the public baths of Mohenjo-Daro.
On the strength of that observation, I have a new hypothesis to put forward: history has some degree of self-similarity. Sort of like Nietzsche's eternal return, but in a more fractal sense rather than a repetitive sense. Things don't merely repeat, events have a self-similarity and causal intercourse can be apprehended at many levels simultaneously. People have often said "history rhymes". But I find history less like a song and more like some kind of a fractal crime scene, and the culprits are always legion.
At least this way we might have these discussions (repetitively, I note) without having to feel churlish every time we connect another dot, nor aggrieved by having been one-upped. Time is not a flat circle, it's a Mandelbrot set.
Terrst
Nucular
Welcome to Russia where you can go to jail for "No to dried fish". Dried fish type "вобла" is written slightly alike to war-"война"
To their credit, they did release him once they realised their mistake.
Bloody funny though.
Be funnier if the police in the UK weren't arresting people for wearing the wrong T-shirt.
They won't next time when there's dozens with that shirt. They'll just make up a reason if they have to.
I just bought one. We'll see how my fellow Canadians deal with it. ;)