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    I just spent three hours trying to update the firmware on my Dell dock from a Linux environment. Solution: quietly weep, revert to Windows (for a few minutes to run the .exe from Windows boot disk).

    Before anyone starts trying to troubleshoot it, yes, I tried all the things in fwupdmgr. Even went so far as to install snap because Dell's Linux tool required it, and that failed as well.

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    [–] goatinspace@feddit.org 18 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Just buy linux computer instead of flashing regular PC with linux

    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 36 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    Brb just going to pop over to best buy and look at their offerings of Linux powered machines

    [–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    Harvey Norman has the option to sort their computers by Operating System

    Is the only difference is Home has an Office Suite? And Pro has extra support?

    [–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Pro has hyper-v, rdp server, and a bunch of extra mmc snapins like local group policy management. There's no reason to ever use home.

    [–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

    It's cheaper, so if you're not keen on crime, that's a reason.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

    I used home because the laptop came with it. Then I wanted a different group policy and my windows said "what you talking about Willis"

    [–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Maybe this is outdated information but I remember Home used to limit the amount of RAM it was allowed to use :)

    [–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yeah I think that ended after XP, so it's p out of date lol

    [–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago

    Oh hahaha fair enough

    [–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

    It was a thing on 7 as well.

    The first item on the list is probably also just home but they don't want to confuse people. So really you have lots of consumer machines, and 3 business machines.

    [–] Turret3857 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    My father has a fw 16" per my suggestion, and I want to get one as well, but they don't offer financing and are fucking expensive. Like shit the bed, last time I looked the diy version was like $2,300 for the upgraded amd cpu and gpu but with no ram, storage... I'm not made of money 😫

    But the joke is that normies have no idea what Linux is and even less of a clue about where to get machines that are made for it.

    [–] Turret3857 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Preorders for the FW12 just went up at a little under $800, but yeah computers (especially good ones) aren't cheap :p

    you could always buy a decade old $150 thinkpad and put arch on it, provided you also have programming socks and a blahaj ;p

    but yeah I get it, I think the op comment wasn't really thinking about the "Normie's" when writing their comment, and tbf without people braving the gamble that used to be putting Linux on windows hardware, we probably wouldn't have options like the framework or tuxedo today

    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

    :p I've got laptops, most recently a ThinkPad X13(s? I don't remember) Gen 2, but I want the gpu so I can retire/repurpose my Acer Predator. The hardware is solid and still doing well, but the execution of basically everything else is horrible. And it weighs several pounds, I can use it as a weapon with ease. It was 1 of 2 (after tons of research) laptops at the time with both cpu and gpu from amd, 5/6 years ago now. MSRP was $2700 if I remember right, but I got it for $1400 which is about what it was worth.

    I don't have stripey socks or a 🦈 :( but I do have a 🐯 that's good for cuddling :3

    [–] Turret3857 2 points 4 weeks ago

    🐯 is good too :3

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

    I got my own RAM and storage and skipped the GPU

    [–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago

    I hate that BestBuy killed the FutureShop in Canada

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 5 points 4 weeks ago

    They have Frameworks and Tuxedo Computers at best buy? That's rad.

    [–] goatinspace@feddit.org 2 points 4 weeks ago

    Slimbook is ok

    [–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

    The problem is obvious:

    you learned Java

    [–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

    How ro ruin any joke.

    Concatenate all the stereotypes you had sitting around since the 1990s.

    Quietly giggle.

    Return to binging the Benny Hill Show.

    [–] Aquila@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    You forgot step 2! Quietly weep

    [–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 4 points 4 weeks ago

    Beatles: While my backup gently weeps...

    [–] Nico_198X@europe.pub 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    wouldn't work from a virtual machine?

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] Nico_198X@europe.pub 5 points 4 weeks ago

    depends on the device, but i have a VM just for this purpose. the device passes through to the VM and i update the firmware from there.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 weeks ago

    There's FreeDos too, you just throw the exe on there and boot to it and run the exe via the dos prompt. I know Linux should let you too.

    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    I wonder if hirens would have done it. I have no qualms with running a firmware update through a Windows environment. My fear, however unfounded, is that I could only get as far as a firmware erase and not complete the write properly.

    [–] salacious_coaster 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    That is always a concern. Backup plan was rm -rf /dock /self

    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 4 points 4 weeks ago

    Well, everything in Linux is a file. I don't see a problem as long as you are in the studies sudoers group.

    [–] alecsargent@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    oh, that is the cartoonist from Exploding Kittens. I'll add that to my bookmarks.

    [–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

    That makes me feel so old lol

    [–] PlusMinus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Next time, you'll know to check the fwupd database before a purchase.

    [–] salacious_coaster 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

    Can't tell if serious

    The updates for Dell docks are in that database. They just fail most of the time. Dell told people to power cycle the dock and closed the issue on GitHub.