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Sadly, this is a human trait overall. It's deep in the lizard brain section from early in our evolution.

If someone is part of a group and then does something seen as against the interest of the group (or groupthink, really) then any tiny little thing can become a trait leveraged against them. Either the person on the outs basically accepts demotion on the social ladder and hopes for re-acceptance from the group as subservient to everyone, or they're just out for good. It's one of our worst traits from a rational perspective, it's violent and irrational monkey-brain shit, and likely made for small homogeneous, tight-knit groups that could count on each other to survive harsh environmental conditions.

In my older age I've come to the realization that a lot of people join movements just to belong, not because they actually hold the conviction. I think in fact there are people who aren't capable of even having a conviction, just bouncing between whatever expressive habits are most convenient socially

You see it with things like politics and religion too

My favourite is the ones who scream about slut shaming then use "virgin" as an insult.

Although that seems to have fallen out of fashion lately.

That specific insult I mean, not hypocrisy.

Everymans straight until they meet a cute twink

OMG i've been saying this for years and every time I get bashed for it (in liberal/left/prog circles)

Because you can't suggest that the (liberal/left/blue/prog/nonfash) aren't perfect or are doing something not ideal

they don’t get called out enough to keep it from becoming a major problem.

idk man 9 times out of 10 I hear someone talking about progressives, they're exclusively referring to the most hypocritical ones. Like, when does anyone talk about the normal progressives that just want good things for everyone? That's boring.

This is the root of the problem with much of the discussion around male identity online.

Women finally, and rightfully, gained a voice, and plenty of dudes listened. Many of them, not really understanding feminism as an academic discipline or having any real sympathy towards any aspect of being a man, used that voice to point of the many issues faced by women in the world and to fight for women.

Where this falls apart is that because of the lack of real understanding regarding feminism and the concept of patriarchy, a lot of it boiled down to "shut up, the women are talking" and "we don't care about your problems"

None of this makes the problems away, none of this is really geared towards equality, and much of it is just switching the genders on deeply toxic patriarchal power structures that were used to oppress women for centuries.

When you think about how stupid 90% of the people involved on both sides of this discourse online are, it's of little surprise so many women went looking for easy answers from hucksters who pitched exploitation and oppression as empowerment.