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Fucking hell. I mean... fuck.
I wish the world would lose all of its stupid societal stigmas that make people feel less human than their equally human peers.
I firmly believe in the right to bodily autonomy and the freedom to modify one's body in accordance with their wishes. But also this definitely fits in the same mental category as breast augmentation where I hope people discuss their body image with a therapist first.
I'll admit, as a tall woman I'm probably the least likely sort to really understand, but I am sympathetic, even if I was attracted to men it would be unlikely for any given partner to be significantly taller than me, and as I'm not it's downright rare. There's lots of gendered awkwardness in being taller than most men, and I'm certain that short men aren't lying when they say the inverse is also true. But also, the short men in my life still feel pretty damn manly to me and the ones who own it have a certain extra charm that comes from that.
Also, the article mentioning guys over 6' doing this, and I really hope those guys talk to someone about it, because that sounds like it might be dysmorphia.
Also, the difference here is that while still an invasive operation, breast augmentation is way less destructive and still somewhat reversible compared to leg lengthening surgery. Not to mention the long and painful recovery process. And it’s not even guaranteed you’ll recover normally.
As a fellow fairly tall person, even beyond how it looks to be tall, you don't need to be much over 6' before it starts getting downright inconvenient. I'm just shy of 1.9m / 6'3", so by no means exceptionally tall (for my country and gender, at least) and like... there are a lot of times when it's just troublesome. I don't fit in places or things. A lot of clothes don't fit me well. I hit my head on things. A lack of legroom is often uncomfortable. I feel like I'm ruining the view for other people at concerts. The idea of people close to my height actively going out of their way to make themselves even taller - even if it was a trivial process, which it clearly is not - is madness to me
Of course I do understand that it's a self-image thing and such things do not care about practicalities. Everyone's got to find a way to be happy with themselves. I get that. It's just... god I hate hitting my head on stuff, that shit hurts
As someone who is 6'4", yeah, I feel similarly. Airplanes are terrible and I always hit my head on things. I kinda understand guys who are, like, 5'5" doing this. Most women like their partners to be taller than them, so it could significantly increase your dating pool to be 5'7". But once you're at 6', not only do most women not care at all if you are taller - they can't even tell.
isn't this just body dysmorphia?
also, men are also vulnerable to body image issues, and we're also given unrealistic body standards in the media.
There are people liking dead bods and bald heads. There is hope 🤞
Keep the typo
Dead bods represent 💪
Being tall sucks. I'm a dude and 6'6, if I could trade in for a normal sized body I'd do it in a heartbeat.
People are still dicks. Women don't fall from heaven onto my dick. I don't fit in cars, forget about flying. Finding clothes sucks ass. All ~~furniture~~ the world is child sized.
I can find people in a crowd though, for what's that worth...
the world is child sized.
This is sort of what short men’s insecurities are rooted in.
Short people get infantilised to a degree which makes them feel less manly, which drives negative behaviours (short man syndrome?) and reinforces their insecurities as they fall into a sort of incel ideology.
The world is not child sized. I believe you when you say being tall suck. I am 1,5m, something like 4"11. So, the size of a child. I fit in cars, but I need a cushion. Lot of counters are so high that only my head sticks out. Finding clothes sucks too. My feet often don't touch the ground when I'm seating on an adult chair. I have to climb so much things. I can't reach all my shelves, even with a stool. Sometimes, sinks are a little too high.
I'm absolutely ok with my size, and I really think being small is easier than being really tall, but the world is not made for people my size. Really not.
Being 5'3", I've thought about this kind of thing in the past. But the risks are too great, and I'm not looking to live with more pain through my life than I already have, just for the cause of being taller.
There are plenty of women who would date a 5'3 man, and plenty of the women are shorter than 5'3
I'm going to say this simply, given my dating history. Any man who's a halfway decent person can find someone who will love them and ignore relatively minor physical issues (and sometimes major physical issues too). Any man who's complaining about not getting dates just because he's short has one of three situations:
He has the wrong social circle.
It has nothing to do with his height, and the prospects he's approaching recognize the red flags.
His own insecurities make it impossible for him to prioritize another person.
Of those, I have sympathy only for the first. Finding love is not easy for anyone, and it is possible to simply not know where to look. Otherwise, it's not about his height, it's either about his demeanor, or his own issues around his height.
My reason for wanting to be taller is extremely pragmatic: I need to be able to reach stuff in my kitchen cabinets without standing on the counter or getting a ladder. I need to be able to shop in stores without having to stand on the shelves to get stuff up top. Simple stuff. I'd also just once like to be able to see over someone's head in a packed movie theater, so that I don't have to choose between going only to shows that I think will have low attendance (matinees) or sitting so close to the screen that it's overwhelming.
I’m a 5’5” dude and I love it tbh. My wife is an inch taller than me. Idk man, it’s never bothered me for a moment.
Going this far to be a bit taller seems insane, I’m almost certain the pain later in life from a surgery like this will really suck.
jSYK this is literally gender affirming surgery.
So all these short kings are getting gender affirming care?
Cuz that's what I'm hearing here.
When I grew up it seemed like everything was only about women's bra size. Don't expect a man to want to date you if it is less than a C! Men want real women, not children without boobs! I've had classmates with <C who were planning their surgery by age 16. There was also a list circulating that some boys wrote where they judged the girls look based solely on boobsize.
Then we finally got rid of that bullshit and all agreed, that all boobsizes are ok. Just to turn around and replace it with this shitshow. It's like we can't just agree that everybody has different preferences, we just have to push the narrative that X property of a gender has to be a certain size, otherwise they are completely undatable.
It's really so sad to watch this shit happening over and over again...
Dumb. If a woman won't date guys based on their height, they're not worth being with anyway.
I've never felt insecure about my height, and I do fall at the lowest end of the spectrum. Also one of the few times being gay has been a blessing since men tend to be a lot less fussy about height.
To me, everyone else's expectations are the problem. Not me! I literally don't understand the appeal because it feels like such an arbitrary thing to like, like hair color.
I think online dating makes this significantly worse for guys. If you're meeting women IRL height is a lot less of an issue but online just that number becomes a huge barrier that you simply cannot overcome. Women who you would either have not interacted with much or would have been okay with your height if you had met in person will go out of their way to insult your height or wordlessly unmatch as soon as they find out how tall you are. It takes a lot of mental fortitude to keep your head up and realize that it's just a false impression based on the messed up dynamics of online dating and I can see how it could just destroy a guy's self esteem completely if he didn't realize that or couldn't keep the fact that it's an illusion in mind.
online dating is a nightmare in general. If you are attractive and rich its probably very nice experience, but for the rest its just awful and makes you feel even more lonely and unwanted. Imo it should be regulated heavily.
…men asking women if they were female at birth.
Online dating is a garbage fire.
I feel so bad for guys who feel they need to do this. I've got several shorter than average friends, and they have all just leaned into it, and It's never been an issue for them. They are all happily married.
I am relatively tall at 6'4" and it certainly has its perks. But man does it have its downsides, which are only worse and worse the taller you are.
Jesus christ
not sure if it's just me but reading this makes me extremely queezy.
Ugh I can handle medical procedures and nsfl situations but
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"turns the key that forces apart the rods in his femurs"
is too much of a step to grow more height methinks.
These kinds of articles are interesting to read but god gods like I can't imagine the insecurity one must have to actually commit into going through these kinds of procedures.
Either way thanks for sharing!
One thing I'd suggest however is to use the NSFW tag as it does show open surgical wounds. Even though blood and gore related content doesn't bother me, it still might be unpleasant for others.
We really need to start promoting therapy more...
I had a leg length discrepancy of a little under 3 inches when I was in middle school. They offered to either stop the growth in the long leg to let the short one catch up, or just directly lengthen the shorter one after I was done growing. After hearing what the process was for the latter, I happily chose the former. I'm alright being a little shorter if it means avoiding that torture.
As someone who's experienced two broken legs after a car ran a red light , one of them a snapped femur, all I have to say is UGH.
I'd say they're insane to undergo something so awful, but then I'm already 1.89m tall, so I can't speak to the pressure someone short might face, or I suppose more importantly, think they face. That's some serious body dysmorphia they're dealing with; I hope that this at least helps them with that.
I’m wondering what kind of long term pain and complications these people are going to be dealing with as their body ages.
What kinda Gattaca bullshit is this?
What is crazy is a lot of us women are ok with short men.
yes, there are a vocal FEW women who speak for the plethora of us. But they can fuck right off along with the men who have weight and breast and hair color and hair straightness preferences and willing to overlook pure value to meet those explicit bullshit standards.
But in my experience It’s the men who are not ok with taller women and martyr that we (the collective we as a women) are (all) forcing them into this kind of situation. I’ve had more than a few men announce I’m not allowed to wear heels. Or go out of their way to tell me I’m too tall for them. It’s honestly not women alone going around setting these rules as ‘The’ women standards for men.
Women don’t ever say to who a man “well your breasts make mine look too small/your straight hair makes mine look too curly/your blond hair makes mine too brunette/your thin waist makes mine look thick” to knock themselves out of the run by self perception alone.
Men are not men’s best friend in so many ways and you guys really have to start being your own best friends too here rather than your worst enemies. And look into mental health please.
I'm sorry, but women do on average mostly prefer taller men. This has been proven through multiple studies.
Likewise, men prefer women with medium or large breasts vs small ones too on average.
There's some things in human nature that just are.
What's different about us is we can accept that we don't have to accept the whims of biology as is and can have the self awareness to go against it or just accept what is and make best with what we have.
Physical features aren't everything, and successful relationships take more than that.
I feel conflicted.
On the one hand, people should feel comfortable in their own body and who am I to have any say in this.
On the other, "short" only means something in comparison to other people. The people seeking hair transplants and Botox can just have a specific vision of themselves, they don't need "more hair/smoother skin than the average person". But you cannot feel "too small" in isolation, I think. Not that I think too highly of cosmetic surgery either way.
Maybe I'm just grasping for reasons to justify my feelings on it to myself, but I don't like this one bit.
useful for people with severe leg length discrepency, but no body dysmorphia, it also ruins your walking, running ability too.
On the one hand, if surgery and/or various enhancements are an effective tool to give someone more confidence, and it's not really directly hurting anybody else, then my opinion is go for it.
To me, shorter men are hot, the size of your penis is pretty much irrelevant (bigger is not always better), and bald/balding/shaved heads are the bees knees. I mention the dick and the head o' hair because those are, in my experience, two other areas where men are commonly insecure.
Obviously I admit that as a gay man, my view on things may be different than that of a typical heterosexual woman. But overall, I really wish guys didn't feel the need to obsess over things like their height.
I don't have a link right now, and probably won't bother to go looking, but I was scrolling through posts a few days ago and saw one with a guy, who I would consider good looking, mentioned his height and weight. I clicked into the comments, and literally like the second most upvoted one in there referred to him as short. He was 5 feet 9 inches (a bit over 175 cm). Granted, it wasn't a derogatory comment if I recall correctly, but just the fact that it referred to a very average height as short really caught my attention. Now imagine if the guy was sensitive about his height and what that might do to his confidence.