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I've always been curious how fascism takes hold, and how people like Hitler, Stalin. etc rise to power. Do people not see what is happening? Shouldn't hindsight, foresight and common sense kick in at some point? I used t think they were like mob bosses early on - anyone disagreeing with them ends up in a barrel, but surely were civilized and educated by now?

It seems the people don't want to jeopardize their comfortable livelihoods and individual lives so expect the 'powerful elected officials' to do their bidding. After all, the public gave them the power to do just that. Otoh, the politicians don't want to jeopardize their cushy jobs and accumulated power by challenging the majority, so are waiting for the public to start a jan6 situation so they can point and say, 'see, the people are unhappy so we should act'.

It's a shitstorm of no consequences and a man child hacking away at the country and no one seems to be doing anything meaningful. I'm literally watching fascism take place.

History/ psychology/ sociology majors care to chime in?

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[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The only person that will ever be on your true side is yourself. But you will be manipulated and taught otherwise by people that are scared of existence. In doing so they make you a pawn to calm their own existential anxiety.

Until people understand conquering their existential dread alone and finding peace in riding the wave of chaos of the universe, which is a constant, there will never be the peace that the others have claimed they will bring you.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Interesting, and yes, the systems of civilization are the artificial construct, restrict human nature and would be a natural part of the change process. I'm reminded of Loki's statement to the crowd: 'humanity yearns for subjugation'. 'Mewling quims' was icing on the cake. Maybe we're not the alphas in the room.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well you’re in luck because all you have to do is look around because facism is taking hold as we speak

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Its weird because we basically all agree its bad but its happening anyway. I keep feeling like someone should do something, but then like I'm someone and cant really do anything.

Are we all just waiting for someone to do something about it?

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This. It's such a helpless, defeating feeling. If I looked out my window, and saw people rioting in the streets and fighting the police/ military, I'd immediately be engaging (and most likely immediately getting neutralized), if I had a company of like-minded individuals behind me I'd say let's determine a target. But all of us, you, me, everyone, have the same mindset: If we try, we will win, but if I try, I will die.

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[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Look up Time Ghost's 'The Rise of Hitler' series on YouTube. They've also done a shorter one about Mussolini.

[–] ominouslemon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Do you know who Dan Harmon is? Creator of Community and Rick And Morty, IMHO a genius. He had a live podcast named Harmontown where he improvised a history lesson and he came up with this

It explains it all in a more convincing way than any historian could, imho. Besides being funny, he has a deep understanding of what makes humans tick and that's the whole point of how fascism happens

That kind of puts the scene where Rick keeps reanimating in different universes in a new light. Forget the episode, but he keeps coming out of his lab in a different universe and they're all fascist hellholes. He's like "Is this, like, the default setting or something?"

[–] Reyali@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I recently finished reading The Cult of Trump by Steven Hassan. It’s from 2019 and so depressing with how much has happened since then that’s not accounted for, but it was interesting insight into how people like that can accumulate a following. It might help answer your question.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Cool. Will look around for it. Thanks

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Read the little book "The Wave" by Morton Rhue. He showed howit starts, with an impressive little example.

[–] Mister_Feeny@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

Damn, this was a book?! I remember it as an after school special.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When the governments are so useless and out of touch that they put aside the people and forget that it is because of them that they even exist, someone will come spewing nonsense about restoring order and focusing on the people. That person gets so many votes that it gets elected.

It's basically a democracy problem. This wouldn't happen if we had an eternal emperor.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's simple. Put greedy people in positions of power.

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