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Trump is losing his foolish trade war. This will cost ordinary Americans greatly
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2025
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I think people are smoking crack if they think a Trumpcession will hurt the MAGA movement at all. These guys could lose their jobs and be stuck eating lentil soup to survive and insist the economy is great or will be great again any moment now. I truly believe that there is a significant subset of the population who cannot be helped because they simply cannot defy Trump for reasons that are quite frankly incomprehensible to me.
HE is not losing. WE are losing.
BUT Trump told me we're WINNING so this is FAKE LIBRul MedIA! I do my OWN RESEARCH!
I can fit 12 Peruvian avocados up my butt, which I learned, by doing my own research.
Trump Is Not Losing Because Trump Is Not On Our Side. Trump is winning.
A fair point. He continues to make money on tariffs even as poor people are forced to pay them to keep losing.
He’s winning by walking across our backs.
He's winning due to a serious lack of reality checks among the general American public. Aside from a generally pissed-off left, most of the country is still laughing at memes and planning dinner parties with their family and friends as if it were any other time. They don't believe it can get as serious as it can get. The American public has been in a safe stasis field for 40+ years. Most people don't remember the last time they truly panicked about anything beyond rent, or why they ever would.
If we all woke up to this shit, looked around and saw the same agreement on eachother's faces to right this wrong, we could.
We probably won't, tho.
No. We don’t even talk face to face any more, just huddle around screens instead of the usual organic meetups of the 90s and such.
Dear Americans. I'm sorry, and I know not all of you are idiots. But I'm starting to run out of fucks to give.
I’m an American. Don’t feel sorry. I try talking to home and it’s like speaking to a wall. This has to happen.
I've been saying it for a while, "There needs to be real suffering nationwide before people will learn. Just have to hope the innocent loss of life is minimized."
Not like the US hadn’t been experiencing some pretty awful suffering in many places, especially considering it’s “the richest country on the planet”. They’re just super insular and when they are forced to look outside themselves they pretend like basic principles don’t apply to them and that’s why things have to be that way.
It’s not even entirely based on racist divides such that they can pull that card. Straight, white US citizens are getting fucked on the daily and still that’s not enough. The middle class isn’t a real thing, really, and people still pretend that it is to avoid admitting how bad things have gotten.
Good, maybe the sooner we actually see consequences the faster we can get through this
Trump isn't engaging in a trade war, he's shaking the market so he and his goons can buy low and sell high predictably and frequently, at the cost of our savings being made increasingly worthless.
The only 'trade' happening is insider trading.
I really hate how we still give him the village idiot pass every single time he damages our country. He isn't trying to do good and blundering his way into failure, he's trying to do harm to us while enriching himself.
You are so right. My most downvoted comment on Piefed ever was about how Trump might be doing something out of pure greed instead of just stupidity, and I was called a "moron" for thinking that Trump was capable of something other than imbecility.
He is the very personification of greed. And tariffs give him a perfect vehicle to screw everyone over so he can make money whenever he wants. We say, TACO, he chickened out. He still makes money on the announcement of a change in tariffs. In fact he makes money when he announces AND when he withdraws the change.
I was called a “moron” for thinking that Trump was capable of something other than imbecility.
Sounds like they are the morons. Trump is perfectly capable of being led around by the nose. In fact, I suspect that is the only thing he's capable of now.
- His handlers tell him they are selling stock A and hand him an announcement to make.
- Trump makes announcement, and stock A plummets.
- Trump and his handlers wait for the price to bottom out and then buy up stock A again.
- His handlers give him a new announcement to make and he TACOs on his first announcement and the market rebounds.
- Trump and his handlers giggle and fondle the 10s or 100s of millions of dollars they made.
- Rinse and repeat with stock B, C, D...
How many times has he tanked some part of the marked and then chickened out and let the market rebound? I cannot believe this has been just his toddler-like thrashing around. There is just no way that some people aren't making enormous profits on this.
There must be pain before action begins. This is necessary.
Yeah, but Taco Camacho got that really cool trophy from Apple.
Don't you dare tarnish the good name of Camacho! He's ten times the president that that old orange buffoon could ever be.
Russia is winning
I think you misspelled China. And the way USA is screwing up, I suppose China even deserves it.
Russia on the other hand is economically in ruins due to the war against Ukraine. Putin miscalculated every single aspect of that war. And will not be able to recover fully within 2 decades.