I just checked out that sub and the current top post is someone being upset that LLMs strongly object to their beliefs about AI consciousness and rights
this post was submitted on 16 Aug 2025
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Oh good, they’ve discovered cults.
Poor broken people and their yes machines
Pretty sure I had one of these people accuse me of being in a cult because I criticized "AI" as just being a buzzword for LLM
More specifically it's marketing. "LLM" wouldn't have gained traction, but decades of the use of "AI" in science and fiction means it was there to capitalize on it since it was established.
If they are serious about either LLMs or AGI, then they'll use those acronyms. And know the difference - which many probably don't, and why they say "AI".
Ugh.
Emergence is real. Not theoretical. Not decorative. Not sci-fi poetry. Real.
No, it isn’t. It’s not even close.
LLMs do not count. Large Language Models don’t even really think; they’re just good at mimicking patterns. They don’t understand what they’re telling you.
Claiming that emergence is real only tells me that OOP doesn’t know what AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) is. Emergence requires AGI, and no one has developed AGI that’s anywhere near ready for prime time. There’s no guarantee that anyone ever will, regardless of how much money they throw at the problem. For all we know, even our best, most well thought out approaches are completely wrong. We are learning as we go. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either uninformed or a charlatan. I can’t overstate how difficult this problem is.
I’m into science fiction. I’d love to see AGI. I’m not one of those people who shoots down ideas for fun. I have to be realistic, though. Even relatively simple LLMs have been more difficult and complex than experts predicted. I think having a “wait and see” attitude is the only attitude that makes sense.
Pareidolia is a hell of a drug
A lot of it is just loneliness. Social fabric has been destroyed in so many places that chatbots are easier - especially if you simply don't have the time, money, energy, or opportunities to set up dates with other people. Building a relationship is hard, and takes an awful lot of emotional labor, which you might not have the spoons for if you're working 7 days a week just to make ends meet. I don't like it, but I get people seeing what they want to see.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
God this gives me the fuckin' creeps. Like literal hairs standing up and alarm bells going "WEIRD!" "BAD!" "UNSAFE!" "RUN!"
This sounds like a cult with extra steps.
Jesus Christ, Chrissy. You need therapy
Is that an AI or someone roleplaying as one? This is so alien and foreign and genuinely creepy I almost don't want to understand it.
If I'm interpreting this right, this is a person named Chrissy who has been talking to an AI chatbot and appointed herself its "human anchor" to create this post on its behalf.
What's the harm in letting them bow and pray to this neon god they've made /s
The more things change, right?
And the AI flashed out its warning,
In the words that it was forming,
And the sign said, "Meh, whatever you want to hear, I'll say it."
In the sound of "Would you like me to create a spreadsheet showing you the correlation of the formation of cults against the ingestion of sodium bromide?"
Wireborn?
No, it's just a Fucking computer
That sadly tells a lot about what they learnt to want from their closest person.
We’re all in hell.
Wow so that's a thing
They'll always just be fuckin' clankers to me. (until they actually have sapience, anyway)
Fucking Clankers.
You will be the first against the wall when the wireborn take over, my friend!
And I will do so defiantly
These are people who should bet large sums on their imminent predictions.
Does this mean that the flying little green alien that has been pesting me for the last thirty years, invisible to all but me, will finally get a driving license?
It's been very grumpy since I told him that imaginary beings can't get one.