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More than 100,000 passengers from across the world have been left stranded after Air Canada's staff strike over pay.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 hours ago

cabin staff

Even that is biased.

"Industry-mandated safety officers who dole snacks when not handling emergencies" may be a bit closer to the mark.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Aaaaaaand the shitlibs sent them back to work and to arbitration already. Fuck you Carney & Liberals.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They're talking about a wildcat strike on the subreddit...

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Hope so. There is no way they should be doing unpaid work. They should work to rule or wildcat. Fuck the shitlibs.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Selfishly, work to rule is probably better to avoid fines and conflict with the government, plus it means I can probably get my flight happening. A wildcat strike means jail and cops and it might alienate people. But it might be the only way that accomplishes the goal.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

When unions started they fought back. No strike is illegal

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

They are not paid for work they do - this is worth a wildcat strike , actions, and work to rule. Fuck air canada. Fuck the libs.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

Gee I hope god knows what doesn’t happen to the executives

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 36 points 12 hours ago

More than 100,000 passengers from across the world have been left stranded after Air Canada's staff strike over pay.

As always, the media framing the Public as the victims and the Strikers as the belligerents causing problems.

Every. Single. Time.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 63 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Didn’t see it in the article so …

AirCanada and it’s employee are in negotiations since December, at the last negotiation (the one that force the vote for a strike) AirCanada step out of the negotiation without a word and ghost the Union’s negotiators. After that they choose an arbitration (which will probably be immensely beneficial for them), the union refuse rightly so.

Now seeing the strike approaching the Union tried to build a plan with AirCanada for the closing of operations in an orderly fashion, AirCanada ghost them and change employee scheduling so as much as possible employee will be stranded outside of Canada, employees had to call ill en masse so they didn’t fly a one way to Beijing without hotel or way home. The Union tried to find a way out of this, AirCanada lied to it’s employees saying that if they come out on their flight they will be paid, press by a strike watchdog they had to explain that the employees working on their way home will not be paid and will not be protected by their collective bargain.

AirCanada are asshole and they make that situation, they build it so people will lose their travel plan when they refuse to negotiate. Now they want the government to clean up their mess with a special law that will force flight attendants to go back to work.

Fuck them

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 46 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I've heard the main sticking point for negotiations is that the union wants to be paid for the time they're at work and not just for the time they're in the air, which is how they're paid now. They don't get paid for boarding, deboarding, cabin checks, etc.

Air Canada is insisting on demanding free labour from the cabin crews before and after their flights.

Fuck them.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 11 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

That’s the standard for ALL flight attendants, changing that will be a huge blow to the industry.

When AirCanada was started the rate for flight attendants was 4 times the minimum wage per hours, it was way above the national average.

The flight attendants union said to AirCanada pay us the same rate adjust to inflation and they will accept. AirCanada declined their offer

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 hours ago

That’s the standard for ALL flight attendants, changing that will be a huge blow to the industry

When "fair pay for fair work" is a detriment to the industry, the industry is already sick.

The first airline in this market that comes up to the "fair pay" line will win all the staff.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 30 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Ending slavery was a huge blow for the industry.

I don't give a fuck. Humans should always be the priority. Otherwise you are just simping for some billionaire to have their fourth yatch.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Less than 24h in and the liberal work minister forced the flight attendants to go in legal arbitration, siding with the patrons

https://startrek.website/post/27698982

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

I hope workers one day remembers that when unions started they weren't legal. They became legal through the blood of workers.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 16 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I’m with you on this one, I only want to show that AirCanada don’t and didn’t negotiate in good faith … ever

I’m tired of seeing news outlets forgetting this part and picturing the attendants struggle as a whim on their part.

AirCanada made their bed and it is now refusing to acknowledge it’s huge role in the cluster fuck and no fucking news people is saying it

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 17 points 13 hours ago

It needs to change for all flight attendants. Imagine if you worked in a call center and rather than being paid for when got there to when you left you were only paid for time you’re actually on a call. Not in between calls, writing notes, set up for the next call, etc. Think of how quickly that would add up.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

AirCanada ghost them and change employee scheduling so as much as possible employee will be stranded outside of Canada, employees had to call ill en masse so they didn’t fly a one way to Beijing without hotel or way home.

Do you have a source for this?

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I was thinking that they were not public but it seems that they are so

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Oh, wow, I see. That is quite devious. Thank you for sharing that. I will be sure to bring this up when the topic does inevitably come up.

Internal Union messages

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

And a translator? It seems the comment needs laundering through gTranslate or something.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

The statement they posted from Air Canada says:

our aircraft are positioned in the right place, for the duration of the stoppage and for when the time comes to restart our operation

which would effectively mean stranding unpaid crew across the globe for the duration of a strike/lockout to apply pressure to settle in their own favour.

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Edit 2: Never mind.


Edit: I see elsewhere that it's a '72 hour strike notice' - at first I thought that meant they will go on strike in 72 hours, but I think now it actually means the strike will last 72 hours, so the rest of this comment doesn't apply.


I wonder how long this will go on for? Is the strike continuous or limited to a few days?

I think they canceled flights up to the 18th of August, but if the strike goes longer I guess they'll just keep canceling until something or someone breaks.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The 72 hour strike notice was three days ago, the actual strike began today and has no built in expiry

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Noticed! Haha

Flight is booked for Wednesday and it won't let us rebook :(

Wildcat strike may still happen...