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[–] red552@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

by that logic am I a class traitor

woah

time to go on a podcast and talk about the evil left on hexbear

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

its our fault you are pro genocide now, we shouldn't have been so rude wojak-nooo

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You could be right, but I don't care because you're rude about it. death-to-the-poor

[–] aaro@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

not only is it bourgeoise, but it is also homophobic, reactionary, haram, counterrevolutionary, ecocidal, and frankly cheugy as hell

[–] Abraxiel@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The transition of marriage from a primarily economic union to one that is based in personal companionship is something that I think is actually a very good aspect of modernity.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm a high COL area it's often an economic union in large part.

[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Straight marriage is the union of one man, one woman, and one health insurance policy

🤮 because it's true

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It can be, and it often is, but it's not because it is ontologically bourgeois or reactionary, rather it's because hegemonic ideology will grab onto every institution found in human life and ascribe it's values to it, turning it into a normalizing force that self-enforces itself in order to support the power relations that led to it existing in the first place, as is the case of marriage reinforcing the patriarchy and heteronormativity which led to marriage existing in turn.

Gramsci lays out in a great way how hegemony coopts institutions and human life gramsci-heh

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do have any beginner reading you'd recommend of Gramsci? I got the first volume of the Prison Notebooks, but it was a bit out of my league.

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The prison notebooks are the bulk of his available work. I'd say read one of the "selections from Gramsci's prison notebooks" books.

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is a good starting point! There's also no shame in reading annotated versions, where more accessible authors elaborate on the ideas present in the text. I can't recommend any in English because I've only read Gramsci in Spanish and Italian, but I'm sure there must be good translations of him in English, maybe even by pete-eat's dad.

[–] Florn@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can you recommend some of the Spanish ones?

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Sorry, but I can't help you there... My philosophy professor just gave us photocopies of a book he knew was good, and I have no way of tracking those down.

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Read my response to dannoffs' comment... I haven't read Gramsci in English, so I can't recommend any annotated versions, but starting with those maybe selected around a single topic (Gramsci tended to go all over the place in the notebooks a bit) could help.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When two people are under the influence of the most violent, most insane, most delusive, and most transient of passions, they are required to swear that they will remain in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition until death do them part. [G.B. Shaw, preface to "Getting Married," 1908]

You must imagine Sisyphus married.

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

“i hate my wife lmao” the book

Death to America

[–] CarmineCatboy@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

all things and concepts are bourgeois if you can profit from them. case in point, wedding planners. in the people's republic of earth all weddings shall be planned by a chatgpt run by the government.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

asking the centrally planned chatgpt to plan my gender reveal explosion

[–] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Centrally planned weddings to go with the centrally planned economy.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

well, women are bourgeois, so any wedding containing them is by extension, bourgeois. theory-gary

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

is lesbian marriage double bourgeoise

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

without doubt.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

It is if it's a cottagecore wedding.

[–] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

fellas is it gay to be straight

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Literally yes. Contrast with feudal arranged marriage. Gay marriage is also bourgeois but to less of an extent. It's just an adaptation of bourgeois (straight) marriage for gay couples. Marriage in China is also bourgeois. Cuban marriage is less bourgeois but not truly communist. Thank you for listening to my Ted talk.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

I conducted a representative double blind demographic unbaised survey of some catgirls i found hanging out in Hexbear and they said yes.

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

This is a bit right

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If two bisexual people of the opposite sex get married, is it a straight marriage or a gay marriage? thinkin-lenin

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

it has two people of different genders so it's clearly a bisexual marriage

[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

It's a straight marriage with gay attributes

It is a bisexual marriage

Yes marry me instead.

[–] Hewaoijsdb@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] aaro@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

whether or not that was self aware you have to admit it was extremely funny

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Probably, I know a fair number of married Marxists, but all of them only got married for the tax benefits.