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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump is handling the peace negotiations in the most spectacularly embarrassing way. Giving the aggressors in a conflict concessions in exchange for a pinky swear that they won't do it again? Wow, what a concept. Historically bulletproof strategy that has never failed or backfired in any way.

I saw someone write once that Trump is so obsessed with making deals, and being known as a great dealmaker, to the point where the terms of the deal are often irrelevant to him. If the terms are favorable, he honors the deal. If he discovers later that the terms were not favorable to him, he reneges.

This kind of behavior works when you are a billionaire developing real estate because the people he screws over rarely have the funds to fight him in court, and have their workers' livelihoods to think about. Even if they do take him on, or they get a law team to work pro bono, he drags out the court proceedings and delays paying court judgements, or he opts to settle for much less than what was promised initially.

This doesn't work in geopolitics, but he doesn't know how to operate any other way. He wants to make a deal, and if he has to give away America's most valuable natural resources to close that deal, he'll do it. Doesn't matter if Putin has no intention of giving up the fight in Ukraine, Trump just wants to feel like he's some great peacemaker.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

It doesn't work this way in geopolitics? I thought the USA was infamous for breaking its deals.

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So he was Putin's bitch all along! Who could have guessed it?

Anyway...

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's insane that anyone needs more proof.

He's been pretty clearly working with Russia since like the 90's.

The Russia investigation origins conspiracy theory or Russia counter-narrative[1] is a conspiracy theory narrative created by Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Republican Party leaders, and right-wing[2][3] conservatives.[4] It attacks the legitimacy and conclusions of multiple investigations into Russian interference in the 2016 elections and the public and secretive links between Russian intelligence and Trump associates. Trump in particular has attacked the origins and conclusions of the Crossfire Hurricane and Mueller investigations and ordered Attorney General William Barr[5][6] and U.S. attorney John Durham[7] to conduct reviews of the investigations.[8][9][10][11]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_investigation_origins_conspiracy_theory

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As someone who actually watched the impeachment ... Holy shit there is SO MUCH evidence that Trump's campaign was helped by Russia and that he is basically a Russian tool. Like ... Mountains of evidence that people just pretend doesn't exist.

It's wild AF to me honestly. People just don't want to believe what the evidence says is the truth so they called it a "Russia hoax" and that's that. All it took was saying the word hoax for all of Trump's bootlicking sycophants to ignore their own eyes and ears.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I think it's more just about the regular person not having the interest to even remotely look at the thing.

If the large majority of people actually were made to watch and give their verdict... I think it would be pretty clear.

The crazies are a minority but they're a very vocal minority so that it seems like there's some actual debate doing on, when there fucking isnt. But the perception of "it's still undecided" is what serves Trump.

"The evidence isn't in yet."

Yes it fucking is Trump is a Russian shill

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How is it that I'm not even born in the US and somehow I'm more American than the average American in my country.

Traitors, to the gallows.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 1 points 6 hours ago

The problem is that he is rich and famous. Americans don't want to put these people in jail, they want to take selfies with them.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Offer the country you’re spending billions against in a proxy war resources that will likely find their way, directly or indirectly, used against the US’s financial expenditures in the war.

No wonder this idiot bankrupted a casino.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 42 points 2 days ago

Four casinos.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 11 points 2 days ago

Don't forget: bankruptcy only affects the business, hence golden parachutes. Being a casino owner wasn't enough, bastard had to screw over the workers too

[–] InstructionsNotClear@midwest.social 46 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump is willing to surrender our our natural resources to Russia cause he is weak. He always has been weak and everyone knows it. Also he rapes children.

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 109 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Complete hypothetical, stay with me, but if Trump was a Russian asset what would he be doing differently? 🤔

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The only thing I can think of is to be less obvious about it.
A properly trained russian agent wouldn't be so blatantly corrupt, surely.

Then again he's a damned imbecile so he's doing the best he can with the 5 brain cells he's got.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

You get what you pay for. I have a feeling Trump is doing it for free.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

He isn't a Russian agent he is too dumb for that. You don't "train" assets you handle them, whoever his handler is, their life must be complicated.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago

Not agent, asset. And as for him needing to be subtle, why? There's been zero consequences for pretty much anything he's done. At this point I'll be absolutely shocked if he doesn't illegally try to hold onto power after his term is up.

The world would literally be about 100x better without Trump and Putin.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 131 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like the Woody Guthrie line from his song Lindbergh about the American fascist collaborators in the 40s:

And I'm gonna tell you workers,
'fore you cash in your checks
They say "America First," but they mean "America Next!"
In Washington, Washington...

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Same Guthrie that wrote a couple song lyrics about Trump's father's properties and the racial divide that was there.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

From his 1955 song, Old Man Trump:

I suppose that Old Man Trump knows just how much racial hate
He stirred up in that bloodpot of human hearts
When he drawed that color line
Here at his Beach Haven family project

Beach Haven ain't my home!
No, I just can't pay this rent!
My money's down the drain,
And my soul is badly bent!
Beach Haven is Trump’s Tower
Where no black folks come to roam,
No, no, Old Man Trump!
Old Beach Haven ain't my home!

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago
[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump giving RUSSIA OUR expensive Resources is PROOF he's NOT working for Russia!

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 76 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I don’t know how many times I need to spell it out Americans:

Line item #2

You need to deal with your worthless president hellbent on destroying the planet.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 72 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (46 children)

How. Tell us how to fight back against one of the most highly militarized police forces in the world and the most powerful army in the world? How are normal middle class Americans supposed to fight back against that? I mean I love the fantasy of fighting back, but tell me exactly how to do it. You tell me that and I'll start doing it.

I'd be willing to bet a decade from now we'll know that Trump probably cheated in the election and Republicans stole it. If there wasn't vote manipulation I'd be extremely surprised, knowing what we know about this administration and the people running it. How are we supposed to fight back against a system this fucking rigged?

It's really fucking easy to sit back in your armchair and call us dumb or lazy for not doing anything about this. I'm sure a lot of us would love to do something about it, so why don't you tell us how.

[–] IronpigsWizard@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Especially when most people have some variation of, "I am going to work myself to death now for a comfortable later" burned into their head from generation after generation of parents.

The, "No Kings" protests basically accomplished nothing beyond a, "neat statistic", in my opinion.

Most people are tuned out, my worksite has 1000+ people at it, no one is talking about this stuff, ever. I am a bit, most people do not care, do not want to risk doing something or have shit going on in their personal lives that take priority.

Anyone critical should do themselves a favor and watch the 1961 film, "Judgment at Nuremberg". The USA judges' servants, when asked if they knew about concentration camps initially denied it. Then, seconds later (paraphrasing), "Even if we did, we are but little people, what could we do?".

P.S. Down voting doesn't change stated reality, sorry.

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

What did you expect? Trump is a goddamn Kremlin Gremlin.

[–] IronpigsWizard@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I have been saying for years he is going to donate Alaska to Russia...and now this.

I should not be, but I am entirely astonished right now, lol.

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[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 28 points 2 days ago

Trump is a bully, and what do bullies do when they enter the big kid playground ? they submit to the bigger bully.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

How much “fury” has it sparked? Are the republicans furious enough to impeach him? I’ll wait. checks watch

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Jesus fucking Christ. Will someone for the love of God get this asshole out of office! This isn't yugo fucking salvia!

Just arrest him and prosecute him!

He will NEVER see a jail cell, never. There’s really only one way to deal with him at this point

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[–] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Is peace plan is selling parts of the us to appease the dictator? If that's the case, that only validates putin to do more of his business because it looks like it may work.

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Big enough of a disaster to distract from the Epstein files?

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yeah, in case you didn't realize, he's literally a fucking traitor, and he isn't going to stop fucking us over until a violent mob kills him. The longer we wait, the harder it will get. That's why it needs to be done before the end of the month

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

God bless user tags. This user wants to be able to use the n-word, by claiming it describes a mindset and pattern of behavior, and is not a racial slur. This is a blatant white supremacist talking point.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

Shocker! No, not in the least.

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So you’re going to allow Russia in the US to go to Canada?

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[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 7 points 2 days ago

And there people were joking about Trump giving Putin Alaska.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

I'm not sure whether or not I'll be surprised to hear Trump gave Alaska to Russia

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

So that's what he meant about a "big betrayal" to take the story away from Epstein.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We can’t supply weapons to the country getting attacked anymore, but we’ll give up our natural resources to the country that started the war? Trump is a bitch.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Trump needs to give his own shit to his boyfriend Putin. Get off your knees you pedo traitor! When is this demented old man going to keel over?!?!

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