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  • Spotify is now asking UK users to prove their age to access mature content
  • The age verification checks have been introduced as part of the UK's Online Safety Act
  • Spotify says it will present age checks if it suspects you're under 13, but many users have encountered checks despite being over 18

Spotify has become the latest app to introduce measures designed to comply with the UK's Online Safety Act, by asking users to undergo age verification checks if they want to view or listen to age-restricted content – and many users aren't happy.

The age verification requirements of the Online Safety Act came into effect from July 25, and requires all platforms that display adult content to verify that users are over 18 using age verification checks.

So far, we've seen the likes of Xbox, Discord and Reddit introduce age verification, and now Spotify has done the same.

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Like Reddit and X, Spotify has partnered with digital identification firm Yoti, a service that conducts age checks via facial scanning. For Spotify users, Yoti will use different means of age verification, from facial scanning to requesting a scan of your ID if it suspects you’re under 13 (Spotify’s minimum age requirement).

It will also use algorithmic methods to estimate a user’s age. But Spotify is taking it a step further, stating in its official outline that "your account will be deactivated and eventually deleted" if you fail to complete the age verification process.

While Yoti claims that your data will be kept safe, and eventually deleted, the new requirement has caused uproar among some Spotify users.

Some have take to forums such as Reddit to point that young people are clever enough to find ways around the checks, for example using a VPN to change their location to somewhere other than the UK – and a minority have even threatened to revert to piracy (see below). What is ‘mature content’ in Spotify?

A phone on a green background showing a Peaches album on Spotify (Image credit: Spotify)

This is the burning question among Spotify fans, considering the music streaming app doesn't host X-rated content on the same scale as Reddit or X. However, the platform does have certain features that are aimed at mature users.

In Spotify's case, you may be asked to verify your age if you try to "access some Spotify content and features, like Music videos that are labeled as 18+ by rightsholders". This could also apply to podcasts that discuss mature content and songs with explicit lyrics.

Fortunately, there is a way back if your account becomes deactivated due to an inaccurate age estimation. According to Spotify, you'll get an email that "allows you to reactivate your account within 90 days of deactivation", after which you'll need to go through age verification checks again.

So far, I haven’t been asked to verify my age in the Spotify app when trying to access mature podcasts and music videos, but a handful of users on forums like Reddit who are well over the age of 18 have have already encountered the checks. Why have VPNs become so popular?

Spotify has explained in various community posts that it isn't designed to work with VPNs, and you naturally shouldn't use one to circumvent any age verification checks.

However, this hasn't stopped free VPNs from dominating Apple's UK App Store, as internet users look to find ways of protecting their data from future breaches, or perhaps even bypass those checks completely.

VPNs work by encrypting your internet traffic, but they're not all equal – so it's important to choose the right one for your needs. Free VPNs can log an excessive amount of data, which could ultimately put your privacy at risk, and sometimes lack important security features.

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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 114 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In the words of my forefathers, “Fuck you, I won’t do what you tell me.” 🖕

EDIT: MUTHAAAAFUCKAAAARRRRR!!

[–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My favorite quote. Saving this.

Big tech is always bad.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

In this case it's government mandated.

[–] Zeroc00l@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was lobbied for by the likes of google, meta etc as having verified users increases their advertising value - the same way a farmer would provide documents when selling their cattle to increase the value.

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[–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Doesn't matter.

Actually, if something is the easiest option, it's ALWAYS the worst. Better options are ALWAYS harder.

Example:

Gmail: Easy to use but google tracks you and uses it for ai.

Tuta Mail: Medium diffuculty, because everything is not integrated and it's not the default.

Self-hosted: Hard, but you can do whatever the hell you want.

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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 80 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

My jellyfin server doesn't ask for age verification, has no monthly fee, has unlimited skips, can work while offline and allows to download the media. It also can be used in several devices at the same time and has not just music but pretty much any kind of media.

Fuck you, spotify. If people go back to piracy, it's on you.

[–] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Same but I use navidrome for music (Jellyfin is create for my tv/movie collection)

I’m also working on a new open source server and front end for a personal pandora like service, that uses machine learning (not popularity from last.fm) to find songs that are statistically similar across 150 dimensions.

I submit my listens to listenbrainz and let it give me a weekly list of new songs to try.

Jellyfin works for me because I also use it to watch concerts and other content, so having everything in the same app is convenient.

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[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 53 points 1 week ago (5 children)

wtf is up with this coordinated push to tie your internet accounts to your government ID.

what garbage international NGO is behind it this time?

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 35 points 1 week ago

This isn't an NGO, it's multiple western governments. They want more control and the companies involved want more data.

The end of the anonymous internet was being predicted as the Corporate Web started taking off in the mid-00s. Rumors were swirling about companies like Meta requiring government I.D. at least five years ago.

This ID stuff is almost certainly going to happen this time.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Billionaires. Want to increase control.

And 'adult' content is code for queer. Anything else is collateral damage.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think it's just queer content they're targeting, though that is a big part of it. These people are also just puritanical fucks that think nobody should get to watch porn. Same people that support anti-sex worker laws, abstinence education, anti-abortion laws. It's about control and stopping anybody from having any goddamn fun.

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[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

They always wanted to do it and they are finally pushing it. Governments spend billions in planning their authoritarian shit, perhaps until now it wasn't convenient for them because not enough people used the internet or they had enough control over it already.

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[–] iii@mander.xyz 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Age check for music. The authoritarians have won.

No. They can't win.

Thats the thing. Evil is evil because it doesn't fucking work.

They can only make us lose. That's not them winning.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is never going away no matter how much we hate it and it has very little to do with age verification.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe not. Signed former Spotify user looking to get albums second hand and rip for personal consumption.

Fuck Keir Stalin.

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 40 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Since when have there been age restrictions on music? Freedom of the arts, anyone?

[–] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, except Spotify isn't just a music company. They've been trying for years to get you to use their App for other stuff that's costs them less royalties.

So now Spotify includes all manners of audiobooks and shitty podcasts.

And while we all agree that age verification is bad... If anything ever deserves age verification, it may be Joe Rogan.

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[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Imagine being told that you have to submit your facial scan to an unknown third party to prove that you're old enough to pay to listen to something that's being broadcast over the air for free.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

If buying isn't owning piracy isn't stealing.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want to support independent artists, not that Spotify gives them a fair share. My plan is to support artists where possible via Bandcamp or merch, but otherwise find a way to acquire music

[–] sylvieslayer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

wait to buy shit at shows instead of online. Bands make more directly from live March sales vs online.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately, many of the artists I listen to don't play near me often.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Wow look at you affording to go to concerts.

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What? Interacting with people in live environments? In this economy?

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[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

No no no, just start torrenting. Streaming services shouldn't exist. They rob you & then geo-block you & then censor you

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Do it, why don't they do it???? Because they are cowards!
Same goes for Nintendo fans and Nintendo 2, and many other who finally caved.
I'm sick of all these people saying but do nothing

They live from us, not the opposite. We have the power.

[–] dudesss@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If you buy your music, say on Bandcamp Friday where Bandcamp waves their revenue, you could host your own streaming server, and eventually cancel your Spotify membership.

https://isitbandcampfriday.com/

https://www.navidrome.org/

https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome

There is also Qobuz as an alternative which pays the artist $. 01873 per stream, as opposed to Spotify's $0.003 per stream. About 5x more. Plus you can buy the music from the platform if you want. And it has higher quality audio, family plans, gift cards.

https://www.qobuz.com/ca-en/music/streaming/offers

[–] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Qobuz+navi has been my go to for a while. Sadly, a fair amount of music I listen to isn't on Qobuz (or Bandcamp).

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

SoulSeek still exists and does not give a single shit about your age.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

People only threaten to leave but never actually do it because "muh recommendation algorithm"

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 12 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Replacing the huge library that I have on music streaming services with actual downloaded music I get to keep feels like it would be an absolute mammoth task. I really wouldn't know where to begin.

I know how to pirate music, but it would take so long to comb through every album, artist, and playlist. Not to mention it would take up so much storage space on my phone.

If I could automate it somehow though, I'd find a way to make it work.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Begin with what you want to play. It's not like you need a 1-1 replacement before it'd become useful.

[–] severalkittens@ani.social 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This isn't my best work, and I need to make a readme, but I made this little tool for me to bulk download Spotify playlists: https://github.com/acarl123/YoutubeDL-GUI

You use exportify to get a csv from your Spotify playlist and then import it to bulk search and download using youtube-dl

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[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago (18 children)

I swear if they continue with this kinda shit, I'm gonna go from 'fan' to 'disappointed paying customer'

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hey, soulseek doesn’t gaf about your age

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

I want to remind people something: you are using this decentralized and open source platform for free.

Spotify is shit but artists releasing their music there is not helping. There are plenty of musicians struggling to live off their career but these in top charts most people listen to are not poor, their are on spotify because it's lucrative.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I wonder how "bad" it really is for a kid to be exposed to nudity (and "worse"!), if actually at all or even the reverse.

Then Bam 18 years old, let's look at beheading videos and 2 girls 1 cup no problemo?

[–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Metadata is broken, devs are working on it.

Better off with slsk for now.

For reference, per lidarr devs:

There's an ongoing issue with the Lidarr metadata server.
This means anything that requires fresh metadata, including searches and adding artists, doesn't currently work.
Searching may still occasionally work for some artists due to Cloudflare caching, but adding will not work.

Devs are aware of the issue and are working on a fix.
The server entered a closed beta on July 25: ⁠lidarr⁠, but some work still remains before it's finished. There's no ETA at the moment, and we do not support any workaround for the metadata server, nor users using one.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Spotify fans are always going to turn to piracy unless whatever service tries to replace it has an equivalent library and price. They commodified music and there’s no going back.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

I never stopped downloading my favorite stuff. I pay for streaming, but I'm not trusting them to give me access forever.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Funny enough, I think music is the streaming service that is safest from piracy.

A lot of us have considered migrating away from music services over the years and mostly always run into the problem of... this isn't the 90s and 00s where we might listen to one band at all times. Instead it is more about liking a few songs from one band that The Algorithm then uses to figure out we like these songs from another and so forth. Its a mess for those of us who grew up on listening to all of Hybrid Theory on repeat for a month. Let alone the kids who grew up with nothing BUT algorithm based curation.

My understanding is there is stuff like lidarr and the like that try to capture that kazaa style experience but it is still inherently a pull experience in a world where the vast majority of people expect to have new songs pushed to them while they drive and so forth.

Movies and TV are one thing since even The Algorithm is mostly about telling us that we want to watch Palm Springs outside of The App.

And for everyone who is going to chime in saying "Well I don't mind": Fuck off. If you were the norm then Spotify et al would have never gotten popular in the first place.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Fuck off, nobody cares about you

Smile for the photo

[–] MorksEgg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Me and my friends started pirating in 1994 when nntp was all the rage. It's gone through many interations, from bulletin boards, to news groups, to torrenting and now I find that I mostly use a debrid client with Kodi. Of all the time that's gone past the streaming services have still not gotten rid of geo locking, it's like they never seem to learn. Everything turns into profit over everything else. They keep screwing themselves. Convenience will always trump even piracy, but they can never understand that they could have had the greatest business model on earth and one of the largest audiences, but profit takes precedence and they dilute the product, in this case streaming, to the point where it becomes no longer feasible for the common people to use it.

Streaming services now cost the same thing as cable bundles cost me 20 years ago, and in a lot of places you're still required a Cable bundle on top of this. Just imagine if Netflix still had every show that was on every other streaming platform, even if you paid $75 a month for it it would still be worth it. But they all want the whole pie, not a piece. So they cannibalize what was a great step forward and then wonder why their subscriber numbers dwindle every quarter. And now they'll make new draconian laws to force people to use their shitty substandard products and scratch their heads wondering where everything went wrong.

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[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh god. I don't want to go back to having to have a raspberry pi with an external drive running subsonic and hoping it stays stable enough for my wife to blast musicals on her drive to work.

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