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Why didn't it succeed?

Concorde flights came to a screeching halt after only 27 years of operation on October 24, 2003. The reason? Excessive cost, high fares, and loud noise. On a regular flight, Concordes consumed 6,771 gallons of fuel, which quickly exceeded the profit made from the flight. In addition to that, only a total of 20 Concordes were built and no airline ordered them except for Air France and British Airways, who had to as they were state-run airlines at the time.

Oh, and a 2000 crash that killed everyone on board (109 people) and four people on the ground.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

early 2000s air crashes were so hot. everyone had one, some had two.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Concorde is cool as heck, but honestly, supersonic travel is fundamentally impractical.

It’s kinda like space "colonization." It’s a really cool dream, but once you take a hard look at the physics (never mind engineering, just assume that will be worked out), it just makes little sense outside of science missions or niches like that.


And if it’s really urgent these days… teleconference. Or charter a private jet between closer airports.

I think it would be cool to have one or a few SS passenger planes in operation for weird niches (medical emergencies? Charity? Political flights? Stuff like that,) but that’s about it.

[–] Womble@piefed.world 2 points 1 day ago

It would make a lot more sense nowadays for Europe/NA to east Asia (or would for Europe if Russia were a reasonable country that could be trusted to fly over).

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What killed the Concorde was economics. It simply wasn't worth while doing and then when one finally crashed that one time, the entire fleet was mothballed

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

the entire fleet was mothballed

For anyone who was as confused as I was -

To mothball: to stop using a piece of equipment but keep it in good condition so that it can easily be used again

I've spent over 35 years speaking (and studying) this bizarre language we call English. Yet until seeing your comment, I had no idea "mothball" could be a verb. TIL!

[–] vonxylofon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Anything in English can be a verb. Fucking "squeegee" can be a verb.

[–] 667@lemmy.radio 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wait until you hear about pickling. A number of military aircraft at the “boneyard” At Davis-Monthan AFB are still suitable for service; their engines having been removed and pickled within a special crate beside the aircraft.

Marine desalination systems are pickled between extended periods of non-use.

And there’s also the traditional use for pickled.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

At first I read "engineers" instead of "engines" and wondered if there was revival process or if they just didn't want the engineers working on anything else.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago

Stop it! I’ve had enough “want to feel old?” for one day and it’s barely gone 9.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nonsense, rich people constantly buy expensive things.

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[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never flew in a Concorde, but I've been inside a grounded one, at the Museum of Flight near Edinburgh. Not sure if they still have it or not, this was some years ago.

It's so small inside! I mean, I'm a tall guy, but even allowing for that, it was horribly cramped and generally not very nice inside. IIRC it had a brown and cream colour palette, and not in a tasteful way.

Still beautiful from the outside, of course.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is 1970's designs and fashion vs designs today. What people liked back then isn't liked a lot today, but surely will be popular again in about 30 years from now

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[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 26 points 1 day ago

I lived under the Heathrow-Noo Yoik flight path, and every evening within a couple of minutes, there'd be a dull thud sound on the roof.

By that point, the plane has reached a supersonic speed and the sonic boom was striking the ground in a reduced fashion. It just sounded like someone had dropped a bag of sand on the house.

This was of course back before the days of ADSB tracking.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago
[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My grandpa was a mechanic on one of these. Impressive plane it's too bad it didn't work out.

[–] Devadander@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

They flew for 27 years, partly thanks to your grandpa. I’d say they worked out just fine

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

The snoot drooped.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I used to have outdoor PE up on a hill near the sea and we would hear the booms from Concorde out over the ocean. Takes me way back. Also makes me feel way old that someone old enough to write this didn't already know about it lol

They also occasionally took off and landed at a local airport and we would go and see them sometimes. Noise on takeoff is unimaginable unless you've witnessed something like a Typhoon jet. The kind of noise you can feel entirely through your body.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Too old, too expensive.

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

The former president of Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo) had a Concorde-capable airport built at his home village, so that his wife could charter it to go shopping in Europe.

The CIA assassinated his predecessor and put him in power so that he would do their bidding and that of the American mining companies. It's estimated that he was worth around $6 billion, $30-40 billion in today's money.

[–] Leeks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Boom Supersonic is essentially trying to bring it back.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

They have a demonstrator flying which is honestly farther than I thought they would get. I still have a lot of doubts about the actual viability when all the engine manufacturers told them they could not supply an engine that meets their needs so they decided they would design and build their own engine, too. On the one hand, kudos for not giving up. On the other, how likely is it they’ll be able to do something the rest of the industry says can’t be done, or at least can’t be done economically? But I really hope they’re able to succeed!

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