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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

I'm excited to see pixel grow but why are we accepting this storage bullshit? 128GB in 2023? Why do we tolerate this storage extortion. Hard drive space costs almost nothing yet they give this unacceptable starting model to sell more cloud bullshit. Apple is even worse at this. Disgusting stuff.

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I'm not arguing against your point at all because that seems like a personal matter. However, I am interested in knowing how the typical person uses more than 128GB of storage space. Aside from people with interests that require more space (eg a photographer or traveler), what do people have on their phones that take up more than 128GB of storage space?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Dude android games these days are 10gb+

My point being is that the production cost between 256gb and 128gb driver is almost identical and the phone manufacturers purposefully gimp the product to upsell some random bullshit.

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[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Photos (I like to shoot RAW+JPEG), videos and music. Pixels don't come with micro SD card slots, and other manufacturers have been getting rid of it as well.

Even apps these days are at least 100-200 MB.

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[–] pruneaue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago

I mainly agree with you, i have enough of 128gb. But i know a lot of people that take a ton of pictures and struggle with storage space

[–] Resolved3874@lemdro.id 11 points 2 years ago

Pixel 7 pro 256gb model checking in. I don't take a bunch of pictures and videos but I also hardly ever delete anything and I take pictures and videos in the highest possible quality I can. My phone has 100gb of storage left between apps and media.

[–] Iamdanno@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I have almost 40 GB of music alone.

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[–] Charlatan@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Loads of FLAC music, track / map storage for offline camping / offroad, offline music downloads from Deezer (Hi-Res) for playback without network.

[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Here's one example: An Insta 360 camera for a single 10 minute video can produce upwards of 10gb of data.

Those video files can only really be transferred to your phone for editing and sharing.

That's ONE example that doesn't include gaming (a highly mainstream community) that also requires gigabytes of storage.

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[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago (7 children)

You don't have to accept it, just buy something else. That's the beauty of Android. I'm using an Xperia 1 IV and really like it. The Mark V is better with heat and a few other things but not enough to switch right away. 512 GB internal, SD card slot, headphone jack... basically everything phone buyers complain about getting removed are all available in one package.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a dark pattern and a trend. It has nothing to do with "accepting it"

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Fine, I used a synonym instead of the exact word you used "tolerate". The point is, the power to tolerate this or not is still in your/our hands. If we only talk and complain, but don't actually reward with our business the companies who do what we say we want, then the future will absolutely be no on board storage, cloud connected, personal-data-harvesting everything.

So it kind of does have something to do with accepting (or not) these things.

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Two of the reasons why I chose a Motorola Moto G Stylus 5G (2022) over a Pixel 6a with much better other specs was that it has 256GB internal storage and that it has a MicroSDXC slot vs 128GB and no slot. This stuff matters to me.

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

I guess I'm the only one who uses phone storage like slow motion swap.

Stuff gets migrated off my phone to my own backup a few times a month

[–] whileloop@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't be opposed to 128GB if the price made sense for it. I'm only using 64GB on my current phone, and it also had 128GB.

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[–] weew@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 years ago

Yuck. Minimal upgrades from last generation yet they increase the price. Artificially limiting software features to the pro.

And those prices are for 128gb? Just so they can overcharge you for more memory upgrades.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Honestly? Really disappointed. Once again Google has done a decent job on the software and AI side and totally phoned it in on the hardware.

There is nothing interesting at all happening on the hardware side. Identical design, no increase in storage or ram, no maglock Qi2 charging, STILL no DP-Alt for display out so no Dex like feature, I could go on. To do such a minimal refresh then have the gall to charge $150 CAD more than last year while locking extra features behind the Pro model?

I struggle to see how this could be considered a good launch. They are trying to command premium prices based on software improvements alone, but with mediocre hardware that will never work. Pixel phones do not hold their value for this reason, and the price will fall with the 8a comes out and has all the identical software features at a fraction of the price.

I will give koodos on the one big thing though, and that's the 7 years of OS updates. That really makes it hard to consider buying a 7 or 7a when the 8 comes with support like that. It will be very interesting to see if the 8a has the same guarantee (same chip so it should) or if they gatekeep that artificially to sell the higher tier.

I also would have liked to see something novel here for repairability. If they had come out with a new design where the battery was easily accessible that would have gone a long way to prove sustainability and comply with the upcoming EU legislation. As it stands I'm not sure 7 years of OS updates are really that important because the phone will not last that long due to already middle of the road hardware and poor repairability.

TL:DR Google has yet again released a mediocre phone with a high price tag.

[–] meullier@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Design wise they are following apple Samsung keeping same-ish design for brand recognition

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[–] jmsy@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

7 years of updates is incredible. A good step towards actual, meaningful sustainability.

[–] jackmarxist@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The best thing is that it'll push other Manufacturers to do 7 years as well.

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[–] Zerfallen@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Pixel 8 is still too big for me. If they would release a Pixel 8 Mini I would love to buy that, even at the same price. Even at the Pro price if it had the same features.

Instead I'll keep holding out with my current phone.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I didn't realise it at the time but the Pixel 5 is the perfect size for me at 6". I really hoped the 8 was going to be no more than 6.1" but sadly not.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People think they want an 8" phone but when you get right down to it, 5" is plenty

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

We're not talking about phones anymore, are we.

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[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I have a Pixel 6 Pro and looking at the raw specs, there is no justification for an upgrade.

The prices differences are weird as well. For my upgrade, it would be $549 for the Pixel 7 Pro and $599 for the Pixel 8 Pro?

Aside from some camera differences, these phones have flat-lined.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 17 points 2 years ago

Phones in general flatlined. There's hardly any real life improvement, and the improvements in spec numbers are eaten up by unjustifiably resource hungry apps.

I have a Nexus 4 in my drawer. Roughly 10 years old, but did everything just fine back then, almost the same apps I use today. But even just starting a reasonably recent Android version on that phone results in 5 fps.

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[–] I_Am_Jacks_____@lemmings.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm disappointed that the Pixel 8 is 6.2" instead of 6". I really wanted to support the smaller form factor, but since it's not as small as I wanted, I may end up going for the 8 Pro.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

But I always ask myself, do I really need all these features? Am I really going to use them?

After this introspection, I realized that one-handed use is much more important to me than many futures companies suggest.

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[–] knotthatone@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm coming from a 6 Pro and getting the 8 Pro. I'm pretty happy with what I've seen:

  • 7 years of software upgrades!!!!
  • Incremental improvements in processor & cameras
  • Free watch
  • The display isn't fucking curved
[–] zerotime@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you think that you'll use the pixel 8 longer than 2 years?

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (6 children)

128GB? Really?

I bought my OnePlus 8T 256GB 3 or 4 years ago! Who seriously sets a flagship phone in 2023 to go with 128GB? That's nonsense. Hard pass.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Can't sell Google Drive storage subscriptions if everyone has tons of storage on their device

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

They sell Pixel 8s with more storage space.

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

The specs on the 8 look solid, but I wonder if they've improved cell radio performance and the fingerprint sensor over the previous models.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

The new AI features they presented were pretty cool, but the European prices are just pure insanity.

[–] WillieCoyote@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Love my 7 Pro but the screen scratches WAY too easily! It's hardly a year old and the screen is covered in scratches and even has a few deep gouges. This is from normal use, no keys/change in the pocket. From what I understand it's related to a choice for softer glass to avoid shattering.

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bro what? My screen is spotless. I even take it biking and kayaking where it gets dirty on the screen.

You must be really bad with your phone.

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[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah it's insane. I've had mine with a protector for months. Took it off and within two weeks I got a deep gauge

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[–] Flipflap@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's time for me to renew my Pixel 4 XL for a Pixel 8 pro. 7 years for software update, it's just unbelievable! 🥳

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Pretty expensive for the value usually provided by the Pixel line in my opinion.

[–] pruneaue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Im due for an upgrade and was waiting for this since they announced 7 years of security updates (makes it such a better value than a used 7).
Any of you guys have experience with black friday sales on pixels? I researched a little, and it seems i wouldnt be saving much more than by selling the free buds that come with it rn.
Also damn google theyre offering $55CAD for my 4a 5G

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Time to update to a Pixel 7, as they now get into a reasonable price range.

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