Honestly, Rebirth is probably the second best in the series IMO. ( not saying it is good)
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One of the prevailing themes of the original is that these animals are just living their life and they simply don't belong here 65 million years in the future. They don't like being kept in zoos, they can't eat the flora, they're simply out of place/time. Their violence towards humans is a side effect of their inability to fit in naturally. The T-Rex flips over the Jeep and then starts biting the tires. He doesn't know what a Jeep is.
In the sequels, they simply want to eat people all the time. Like, I was high when I saw the 5th one, but I'm pretty sure dinosaurs will go out of their way to eat people even when they're basically on fire. From what I've seen of the trailers from the new one, they will flip over a boat and wait for the people to fall out before trying to eat them. It would have made more sense if they said they accidentally fucked up their brains or something and made them ravenous.
Oh, sorry, that's as long as you don't hold your hands up. That makes you invisible for some reason.
they accidentally fucked up their brains or something and made them ravenous.
Maybe the dinosaurs used the time machine from Timeline too frequently.
The first one is the only one I enjoy because it is a good movie.
I like The Lost World because I am a big fan of Goldblum's sarcastic portrayal of Ian Malcolm. I like 1 scene from 3. Where Grant is dreaming and a raptor looks at him and says "Alan". That shit was so stupid, it was perfect. It still blows my mind that made it into a movie with the kind of budget and financial expectations Jurassic Park 3 had.
The general premise of Jurassic World had promise. But they ruined it by making up a dinosaur hybrid and just letting it be a monster of the week abomination tear ass-ing through the park in broad day light. What the character of John Hammond did worked because the resulting monsters were based on something that was once real, and because his motivations seemed like something an actual human would try to do with enough hubris and money thinking he was doing something good for humankind. What they turned Dr. Woo and everyone into in Jurassic World was just a mix of incompetence and mustache twirling evil. Which isn't funny unless its played for camp.
Never bothered with any of the others.
I was disappointed that they didn't take the chance and do feathered dinosaurs where appropriate in World. Back when Jurrasic Park came out, dinosaurs evolving into birds wasn't common knowledge and the average person saw them as huge, slow and dumb. The movie did a TON of work of bringing the then-current understanding of dinosaurs into the public consciousness. The new movies could have done the same, but decided to play it safe instead.
Such a missed opportunity! The designers could have gone nuts on feathered designs. And hell, they could still have the "classic" designs around, the movie even features some of the animals from the original island.
Second huge missed opportunity was that the second movie didn't take place in the ruins of the original park so it could be called "Jurrasic World: The Lost Park".
Right I really expected the latest movie to have way more feathers. But the story of it was just sooo bad and unmotivated. Lol "We want to study the proteins of a 100% synthetic species for which the entire genome is known. Let's collect blood." As if all of biotech simply does not exist. It makes very limited sense imho
Shout out to Jurassic Park 3 which, while terrible in its own way, at least added quills to some of the raptors. At first I thought it strange that only some of them got new design and some of them looked the same as in the first two movies but then it hit me - the ones with the quills were males, while the first two movies had only females!
So yeah, World has zero excuse when even JP3 got some proto-feathers in despite using the same dinos as the first one.
The worst one for me is the sequel book that Crichton actually wrote. The Lost World.
He actually wrote it as a sequel to the movie, not the first book. Bringing back Ian Malcolm (killed in the book, but not the movie) and flipping the ages of the original 2 kids to match the movie.
As a book, it's not awful, but he kind of sold out by writing it for the inevitable movie adaptation... which then completely ignores the book. 🤬
I really wanted to see the chameleon dinosaurs too! Or, you know, not see them as the case may be!
Bringing back Ian Malcolm
When I read that book as a kid, that confused me so much. I reread the beginning of the book so many times trying to figure out if I had missed a line saying "but it turns out it was his twin who died" or something. I think I had gotten the first book from the library then returned it, else I would have reread it looking for an explanation. No, though; justifying his resurrection was left as an exercise for the reader.
The chameleon dinosaurs would have been a no-brainer! They were scary as hell in the book and easy to translate to the bog screen. Give 'em a predator-like cloaking vibe, but more obvious. Catch one fading into the treeline, stuff like that.
There were chameleon ones in one of the newer Worlds.
Alien and Terminator have both had nothing but shit since their second installments.
If you look at only the movies, Star Wars is at least as bad after the original trilogy. Rise of Skywalker is bad enough to make me wonder if there was intentional sabotage going on.
But for my money, the best example of a franchise that starts strong and then turns to absolute garbage in the sequels is Highlander. The original is a classic that was never meant to have a sequel. Then it got a bunch of sequels, the majority of which have been frequently cited as among the worst movies ever made.
- Highlander 2 is a ridiculous betrayal of the original that wanted to be cyberpunk and retconned the immortals to being aliens, which just gets dumber the longer you think about it,
- Highlander 3 is an apology that erases 2, but also negates the original's ending for no reason other than to do the exact same plot over again... poorly.
- Highlander 4 erases all the movies and instead follows the TV show, killing the hero of the first movie as a poorly realized attempt to pass the torch, butchering the lore of both the movie and the show, and just being so awful that they chose to spend their time and money making deceptive ads with stuff that was never going to be in the movie instead of finishing the movie. Seriously, they released it with unfinished effects shots and missing scenes that were vital to understanding the plot.
- And then there's Highlander 5, which was a straight to Syfy channel movie that actually makes all the previous ones look good by comparison, Listing everything wrong with it would just be describing the entire movie.
Hell, the anime is the most faithful movie follow up, and it doesn't have any of the characters, takes place in a post apocalyptic wasteland, and introduces God, destiny, reincarnation, ghosts, druid magic, cyborgs, giant robot spiders, etc.
Rebirth mostly sucked but t-rex river made it worth the price of admission. The Pratt sequels brought nothing worthwhile to the table.
Edit- I'd argue the resident evil films are contenders for "biggest collection of dogshit" and should have ended at 1, but they kept pumping those out too. $$$.
Why do they keep making them? People watch them. Rebirth has passed $800m at the box office.
Why do people watch them? IDK, dinosaurs are cool? I agree it was a bad, unoriginal film. I still watched it and apparently you did too. I knew it would be bad and watched it anyway because I know I like a cheesy, "bad" film on occasion. Why did you watch it?
And it was supposed to be a "soft reboot" of the franchise, so viewers can forget about the one about grasshoppers instead of dinosaurs. So maybe that was supposed to be the "Rebirth" of it all.
Lost World is a worthy sequel to 1 but yeah, after that its all awful
The modern King Kong films, starting with the Peter Jackson one which was alright when it came out. The rest of them are just straight schlock trash
I liked Kong island precisely for its schlock. Throwing John C Reilly in the mix was wild.
Yeah Skull Island was a bit of a hidden gem. Painful to see what has happened to Western Godzilla - at least Japan is still doing the big man (lizard) justice.
Oh yeah, shin Godzilla and Godzilla -1 are by far my favourites from the last couple years.
I find it fantastic how they manage to make a kong movie or godzilla movie and then go: alright, this is vool and all, but how about this child that is the main focus of the movie? Predator movie? That sounds cool, but how about a child with autism.
Jurassic World was okay....Fallen Kingdom was awful and The one with fucking locusts was the biggest waste of returning talent in an IP that I have ever seen
Sam Neil is understandable because I think he knows he's "the guy from Jurassic Park" and it was an easy paycheck, Jeff Goldblum, sure, because he knows he's Jeff Goldblum and no one will ever really hate him, but it's crazy to me that Laura Dern came back for that script. I hope the paycheck was worth it because... wow.
Which is wild, that he's "the guy from JP". I checked his filmography and he has been in at least one movie per year since 1984.
In The Mouth of Madness is the best of the ones I've seen. Also one of my fave John Carpenter films.
True. Check out Event Horizon if you've not seen it yet and like Mouth of Madness. It's another Sam Neil-led horror movie and one of the best in the genre IMO.