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[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm sure smartphones don't help, but there is also an additional factor that I've observed: The social contract has changed radically. A lot of people from older generations have the idea that if they show up and do a good job at work, go to the doctor and obey what they say, read the newspaper and take it seriously, all these kind of "doing what you're supposed to" elements of life, that they'll be well-served and well taken care of. For young people, that is not at all the case. And, because they're not stupid, they've noticed (how could they not?), and it makes them cynical and nihilistic about the whole concept of "doing what you're supposed to" as a general life principle.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And also their main sources of culture are from fascists.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's not really what I'm talking about. Being trusting of "the establishment" certainly helps make Fox News's job easier, but I'm talking about people who had health insurance, good unions, qualified doctors, all that stuff, for all of their adult lives. It just leads you to generally be of this kind of boomer "firm eye contact and a handshake will get you far" mindset in life.

It's not fascist to like the system you're embedded within because it gave you a fair deal.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh sorry - I agree with you, I meant kids coming up have fascists as a main cultural source.

I see how that could have been misinterpreted, my mistake.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago

Oooh... I get it. Yeah, there are people all over their media who are playing up the cynicism and making it sound cool. That's absolutely a big problem too. And yes, it makes them more cynical about everything (both the people who buy into it, and the people who don't, which is an impressive achievement.)

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -2 points 3 days ago

It's not fascist to like the system you're embedded within because it gave you a fair deal.

It is fascist to expect everyone else to play along because it benefits the boomer and the parasite class. They don't even admit that they are exploiting the younger working people.

Social security queens knows who pays their benefits.

401k also relies on that labour.

This class war has a huge age component. I am tired of people acting like the boomer going to come around. The boomer enabled the elites, they are a class enemy depsite most of them being stupid peasants themselves.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yup.

Because social contracts are being broken left and right, these kids are not going to feel the level of obligation required to take care of us when we're end-of-life. It's going to be very, very bad for the elderly in a couple decades.

I mean, there are a lot of other ways things are going to get bad due to the decline of social contracts, but this is one I think about a lot as I'm pushing through what I guess is middle age.

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What else would you expect from a cohort that thinks any emotion or action that isn't rooted in a smug disdain for sincerity is "cringe". Fucking kids brains have been fried by fascist dogwhistle memes, incel rhetoric, and actual rapists peddling antisocial behavior as a life philosophy.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yep. Pretty much spot on. We are entirely fucked going forward.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Really interesting study.

There are a ton of factors that influence this trend of decreasing conscientiousness

The author seems to attribute most of it to new technologies, but since no significant tech emerged around 2016 that would have began this trend, fell like it probably has to do more with the generational "hopelessness" felt by most people under 30.

The author does consider this, but I think forcing genZ to grow up with 1/16th of the wealth of boomers at the same stages in life seriously stunted their growth and independence.

And ignoring their almost impossible financial situations, their reward for working harder than any other generation in human history will be to watch the planet die around us while anyone in a position of power clings to it so they can rape kids or whatever they are obsessed with.

It's bleak for younger generations, and I can't exactly blame them for checking out.

[–] imapuppetlookaway@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Here's the NIH article: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4499872/ and the Financial Times article: https://archive.md/4YVBB The latter has more links to other sources.

[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

We're boned

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 3 days ago

Arrested development. When people don't hit life mile stones they don't develop. When you can't cash flow positive your life despite doing everything you are were told by the system, you ain't got fucking time or energy to self actualize.

This is done on purpose.

Parasites want obedience with out even giving you the good boy treatment or much of any treat.

Anyone lapring the regime kool-aid lacks basic self respect and dignity. Most people ain't that stupid, thank god.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd like everyone to stop and consider what end of life care is going to be like for us with these fucked up kids running the show by the time we reach that stage.

I get that every generation ever has thought the younger generations weren't up to the task, but this isn't the same scenario. As other commenters are mentioning, these are people absolutely brain fried and desensitized from birth by aggressive, non-stop propaganda. They lack sympathy/empathy. Their roles models are literal rapists and fascists.

They're going to be amoral, poor, and completely unequipped to take care of the elderly, much less all the other aspects of society, by the time we reach the end of our lives.

Dark. Future.

It's okay, the world's going to be unliveable for humans by then.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is this why customer service has gone downhill so dramatically? Never a smile or thank you anymore. Everyone is just miserable and rude.

When I worked for $5.15/hr in 2008 it was expected to be courteous and polite with customers or you'd be fired. I remember my manager at my first job specifically laying into me for not smiling enough. It was the most basic requirement of the job.

And people say that it's because wages suck nowadays, but that $5.15 from 2008 is now worth around $8 and yet fast food pays $15/hr starting around me. So kids nowadays make twice as much as I did and can't be assed to give a single fuck. I just don't get it.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

This is pretty good, but you gotta make it a little more subtle. Open with something perfectly reasonable and then sort of work up to the bait.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

as a european who started working around the same time that sounds insane.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If this bothers them, they'd love German customer service. Every puddingbrezel I've purchased at the DB came with a complementary frown.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i've not been in germany much but every interaction i've had with db seems to end with threats.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They liked you enough to threaten you?! That's high praise on the DB.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yeah i dared use their website in a supported way and for that i almost got thrown off the münchen-hamburg ice at three in the morning. i won't elaborate because last time i did i got swamped by germans telling me it was my fault.

Sounds like it wasn't foolproof enough for a tourist even if it makes sense to a native. Which is absolutely a failure of a domestic transport system, unless you don't care about tourism.