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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump was aided heavily in the 2016, 2020, and 2024 elections by Russia, who was funded by China to destabilize the US while Russia takes the brunt of the US retaliation.

We've known since 2015 that Donald Trump was a Russian asset, our security agencies told us.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Like most issues these days, nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Trump is just the symptom, he's not the disease. He has thousands of enablers and supporters throughout government, including the Supreme Court.

If we got rid of Trump tomorrow, the disease would remain; those thousands of people won't disappear. This could not happen in a healthy republic, we're far beyond that now. Super PACs rule and cash is king; both parties are not the same, but they are both bought.

Did you know that foreign countries can also "influence" our parties through Super PACs? Our representatives don't work for "us" any longer, we don't have enough cash to compete against multi-generational corporations and foreign governments.

And our only legal recourse is to ask our representatives to stop gorging themselves. They will not.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trump is destroying the future of America to serve Putin.

to serve himself.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nothing more American than blaming all your problems on Russia

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From the FBI report in 2016: https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/

(pg8)

The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.

So pretending this didn't lead to Trump in 2016 (and likely now) is what Americans should do according to you?

Yeah. Let's not at all remember how much saner things were before 2016. That has nothing to do with our national security being openly exploited to the point Russian propaganda is now appearing on our news stations.

... the Russian state broadcaster RT orchestrated a massive scheme to influence the American public by secretly planting and financing a content creation company on U.S. soil,” said U.S. Attorney Damian Williams for the Southern District of New York.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/two-rt-employees-indicted-covertly-funding-and-directing-us-company-published-thousands

This is all just a coincidence, and definitley how our democracy has always been, right?

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds to be right out of Americas destabilization play book.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Takes one to know one. Bad is still bad. Even if we've been the ones to do it. Now we're too busy rounding up anyone that isn't white because our government is a kakistocracy in full reverse. Thankfully we're too stupid to destabilize much but ourselves now.

But that doesn't mean we shouldn't still be trying to help those most affected by it. Just because America designed the hose of misinformation that Russia is now using to destabilize world Democracy doesn't mean we should passively accept it being blasted everywhere.

I mean, if you feel we're responsible, shouldn't we be the ones to fix it if Russia clearly isn't?

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I just think a country should stop interfering with other countries if they dont like other countries interfering with them. Why would any country treat America fairly at this point? This adversary stuff needs to die out, there's far more in common between Russian and american people than is different. Its absurd that simply being across the world from a group of people means you can characterize them however you want.

We have the internet now and still people think they are some special group of people, its absurd. We need something to connect the average people of the world. When tiktok went down and people were on chinese social media, that was a good thing.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This adversary stuff needs to die out.

Then maybe don't perpetuate it yourself by starting conversations with:

Sounds to be right out of Americas destabilization play book.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If that felt like an attack to you that says more about you than me.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

You're the only one saying it's an attack, then getting defensive about it. Which tells me you're an expert at getting offended by yourself.

People like that tend to get really offended when you point that out. Despite it being a basic observation, not an attack. So don't accidently prove me right by going into a lot more detail about how offended you now are in your response.

That will definitley say a lot about you.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No he's doing it to enrich himself. The people who vote for him are doing it to own the libs, at the expense of their own financial stability and future.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 24 points 2 days ago (8 children)

And to stay out of prison, don't forget that. If he hadn't stolen the election, he'd be in prison right now, with more time on the way.

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[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago

Leave it to nytimes to push such a simplifying, party-lines division dumbass narrative. No, it's rich people fucking over poor people, as per always. But we can't publish that!

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

Release the Epstein files

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 79 points 2 days ago (12 children)

He's not, he's an idiot who legitimately doesn't understand why what he's doing isn't working.

That's infinitly more dangerous than someone who is intentionally breaking shit.

Hitler thought he was doing what was best for Germany...

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 60 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And like Hitler, Trump isn’t acting alone. He has a gigantic staff of sycophants with their own agendas supporting him. Just like Hitler did.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

he's not only an idiot, he's a puppet. hillary was spot-on with that assessment way back then.

[–] kcuf@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The damage he's causing isn't the result of someone who's trying to do good and failing. He is an enemy of the United States, deliberately doing as much damage as he can.

He may be an idiot, but thankfully so otherwise the comparisons to the Nazis circa 1930 would be a lot more direct.

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[–] marsza@lemmy.cafe 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

George W. Bush was an idiot. A man who legitimately didn’t understand politics. He was a puppet, just like Trump. But Trump knows he has power and he uses it purposefully to make people mad. He’s like someone who argues online for dopamine, except it’s controlling a country.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interesting idea to explain everything - mango Mussolini is merely an internet troll arguing and stoking outrage. Yet somehow the moderators haven’t banned him. Somehow his outraged leaked into reality

[–] marsza@lemmy.cafe 4 points 2 days ago

It’s like that one user who runs around doing whatever they want because they know the mods. Occasionally they might get a 24 hour ban for being really bad, but that’s just for show. It will never be permanent and ultimately if you want them to stop you have to find where they live and do it yourself.

I would argue there is a pretty good angle from the Eisenhower executive office building

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[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

Trump isn't doing this alone. He can only do this with the blessing of the Republicans and their oligarch masters. And they are all making unimaginable fortunes from doing it, which seems to me to be more of an incentive for them doing it.

[–] ProIsh@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

*republicans

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Release the Epstein files you cowards!

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 2 days ago

Big randy marsh energy

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