Anybody got ideas for how to stop shitlibs turning bluemaga-fasch?
this post was submitted on 09 Aug 2025
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Dems keep working with trump to approve his picks, but what they won't accept is that if you sit down at a table with nazis, the only thing that's changed is the number of nazis at the table. @_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Change the default value and defaultists will default to something else.
If you don't support the right to corporations to practically enslave people in the global south, you hate human rights/the global poor 
/uj God these people fucking suck so much. It's always interesting seeing how they tip-toe around the topic of imperialism/the third world, since their ideology relies on them being exploited; and it defeats their whole "human rights" façade.
To be honest i don't have place in my mental health to hate people on the internet anyway, but this is very annoying to see on lemmy.
If you dont support the freedom to have slaves, you're just a hypocrite.
Yeah, people whose identities rely on dead provably-bullshit ideologies with associated power blocks tend to fall back to shallow tribalism that very much resembles, and probably inevitably becomes, fascism. Its yhe form of undeath that an empty heart and empty head always seem to take.
This is someone whose reading into liberalism only went as far as reading the name.
Kinda like we do around here with only reading the headline? :)
Were I dictator, I'd mandate critical thought classes through all of primary education.
I got lucky, had a hippie science teacher from 1st through 6th grade that hammered us on the meaning of empiricism and the scientific method. Taught us how to craft an experiment and judge the results.
Judging by what I read on FaceBook before bailing out, that instruction didn't stick for many of my Gen X people.
Gen X going from "My generation will put it right, we're not just making promises that we know we'll never keep" to becoming the evil they swore to destroy definitely goes in my top ten anime betrayals compilation.
Its not even to the point of nuance; they believe in nothing. It's all just tribalist identity shit like the fasch do.
They have to be identifiably different than the fasch, ajd that's thebonly reason their 'policies' are better.
It sucks cuz I’m starting to feel lemmy is being really dominated by them. Like in the past I felt I could share anarchist views even on lemmy.world comms if I dont mind a bit of debate, but now the liberals outnumber so much that that doesn’t work anymore.
I still share my anarchist views everywhere. Long live anarchocommunism!
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Holy fuck, same. Honestly for the longest time i felt it was just me, basic leftist positions o would get downvoted to hell.
It's a shame, i wish we had more anarchist instances on lemmy. That's why i love dbzer0 and stick to it, but it can feel numbered and small sometimes.
I’ve completed turned off vote counts because of this. I just scroll lemmy with votes hidden now. I have to say it’s a very different way to approach social media. Can’t tell if I’ll stick to it but interesting experiment.
I've tired tried that before :) i get heavy FOMO though, and always turn it back on, though. Even just displaying the total votes and hiding the downvotes/upvotes is FOMO to me lol.
I guess it's easier for a blåhaj user, though
Yeah very fair. I have that a bit aswell. It kinda feels like I’m yelling into a void when I don’t get the vote feedback.
Slowly trying to find a way to use lemmy that doesn’t get me stuck in a debate with a lib or a tankie every second comment …
I ""solved"" it, but only by trying to ignore politics altogether; obviously doesn't work much, since I like talking about politics :/
At least the (albeit brief) discussions on dbzer0 i have are sane, like the one we're having now without anybody ruining it immediately xd But as i said, they're always brief, and the communities are too small.
I hope our political/news communities expand more one day, or another anarchist instance gets spinned up :D
Glad you’ve worked it out. I should take inspiration:)
I don't think it's .world users. It's the red fasch. Try posting progressive/leftist comments in an .ml thread and get pounced on by people screeching about how their brand of imperialist, hyper masculine fashion, rugged indvividualist authoritarianism is acktually the best kind of communism.
Why not both ¯\_0_/¯ I've learned not to poke either anymore, but in this case we're talking about LW; and they are incredibly hard to talk to about socialism/anti-imperialism. Usually you immediately get shut down by their already assumed prejudices/opinions of them.
I'd normally not mind much, but since they're the huge majority, so you have almost no choice but to discuss politics with them, specifically. At least with ML i can just avoid it easily (ymmv)
I do, I do. I don't want to poke the hornet's nest or argue for no reason. It can be hard to log off sometimes when something so incredibly hypocritical gets posted.
Lol same. I try to not comment under political posts on lemmy, but sometimes i see something so hypocritical/blatantly wrong i just can't help it at all, i have to stir shit 😔
Yeah, new deal with chinese characteristics/gottasuckstalinsdicksohardimsafefromthepurges is cringe, but they've been pretty stable. The libs are changing.
In my experience with dealing with authoritarian or state communists, they act like their communism is the only communism. They believe that state violence is necessary to achieve freedom and equality, among other things, and that anybody who believes different is naive.
Its not just that they're moving in, its that they're...
Did you watch anyone you were close to turn fasch last decade? It's like that, but for bluemaga.
Find one with an old account and look at its post history. Watch it go from person to thing.
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I fucking know, irs like the polycrisis of information/death of truth/sundering of civil society that they can't actually acknowledge because it would involve admitting they were never the good guys/bloody legacy of edward bernays/not killing enough of the bad guys when they forced us to go to war/rather-be-happy-than-right en masse all kinda... Smushed tigether and dropped us into the ending of 'echopraxia', somebody please fucking stab me in the face already.
If you want to be less sad: might i recommend drugs?
bluemaga
There is plenty to complain about, but there is no such thing.
Of course not, honey. Of course not.
So if I image search for maga house, maga car, maga shirt, we all know what thats going to look like.
Can you show me an example of what "bluemaga" would be for that?
Probably. But we just agreed it doesn't exist, so tabbing out and doing a couple image searches is a lot of work to prove myself a hypocrite.
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If you don't support liberalism you are against human rights, simple as.
God if only the FBI would even defend liberalism
Simple as what? That’s what I’m not getting.
There is not nuance in this debate, they just don't know anything.
Lemmy.world news communities are shitholes
the Lemmy update which blocks an instance's users when you block an instance cannot fucking ship fast enough.
I might have migrated to PieFed by then though.
https://www.anarchy.no/anrights.html
I liked this resource, I wonder if there are any others like it.
Thank you for sharing this, i didn't hear of it before and it looks great!
Can you be a leftist liberal? 🤔
Liberalism is by definition capitalist. It’s what gave us capitalism. So unless you only follow the social aspects (ie. social liberalism), then I don’t think it can be truly leftist, as in anti-capitalist.
I see liberals more as social group than a capitalist one. The "free market" shit is tacked on by rich neolibs working the other side of the fence
I mean liberalism is by definition capitalist.
But I understand the usage of the word, especially in the US in recent times, has tended to mean something more akin to center-left.
"centre-left" in the US of course meaning "vaguely remembers being told nazis aren't good" in the rest of the world