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Israel boasted of its prowess. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu presented U.S. President Donald Trump with a golden pager as a gift.

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[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can’t put into words how horrible that week was. Everyone was suddenly expecting their phones, laptops, solar inverters, and even newer cars to spontaneously kill them. These things exploded out on the street, in buses, in restaurants. Even if you’ve been told all of your life these people are terrorists (and that is something I’ve definitely been told more than you have), this attack is a genuine innovation in terrorism. Utter chaos, and a complete lockdown of our weak medical infrastructure.

The doctors were pulling shards of glass out of and had to amputate children’s eyeballs. For the crime of sitting in the wrong bus at the wrong time. I don’t care even if they were sharing a bus with Satan.

Any other terrorist organization besides Israel does this and it’s a historic crime, but when Israel innovates new ways to utterly terrorize Lebanese and Palestinian people, it’s a fucking party. Golden fucking pagers.

[–] Davriellelouna@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Any other terrorist organization besides Israel does this and it’s a historic crime, but when Israel innovates new ways to utterly terrorize Lebanese and Palestinian people, it’s a fucking party. Golden fucking pagers.

What Israel is doing to Palestinians is criminal. Benjamin Netanyahu and his government should be in The Hague right now.

But let's not please pretend Hezbollah are some innocent puppies.

https://www.france24.com/en/20130205-bulgaria-accuses-hezbollah-bus-bombing-terrorism

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

I missed the part where I said anything about innocent puppies? Or the part where I said I’m cool with the way they have shifted internal and foreign policy in a way that’s made Lebanon a worse place to live and a quasi pariah state? Or the part where I said I’ve never been harassed by their goons for my own political activism against their regressive political agendas? How many times has a group of their guys knocked on your door at 3 am to tell you not to do anything they deem stupid, how many times has your electric service been cut because your power baron got a phone call from them?

This doesn’t mean I want people randomly finding out they’re human bombs while they’re sitting around in their homes and in public places. My comment was to point out how barbaric that pager attack was because westerners especially seem to be completely throw their humanity out the window when they see who the intended target is. I feel strongly against the intended target more than you even could think you could. But they are also the only thing in Lebanon that was capable of fighting a just war. They’ve been a political obstacle to important change and they’ve personally intimidated me, but they also liberated my hometown. I still have a hometown, it still has a real name, it wasn’t razed and turned into “Kiryat Deathtoarabs”, because of them. Put yourself in my place for a second.

I’ve used this example on Lemmy before: Imagine the worst gang in your city suddenly having its members turn into bombs. Hell, imagine it completely succeeds in hitting every single gang member. They explode suddenly on buses and in subways, in restaurants, in secret gang hideouts, and while they’re picking up their children from school. The same school your kids go to. The streets are covered in legs and blood. The hospitals are full injured bystanders. Why would anybody be upset? The gang is over, everything is perfect now!

Not even I would want something this to happen to let’s say the Knesset or the IDF or whatever. The Hague exists for a reason, even if it’s been made a farce in the past two years. We know the crimes, we don’t need underhanded methods. We know the crimes. Apply international law to the entity you claim is a country.

What Israel is doing to Palestinians is criminal. Benjamin Netanyahu and his government should be in The Hague right now.

The reason I’m trying to explain to you is that I know you’re not some genocide lover who is not worth the effort to discuss things with. I hope it was worth the effort to write up.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 week ago

Whataboutism.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Let's not pretend that terrorism is a valid response to terrorism, or it's okay when anyone does it.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What Israel has created is millions of people who will deeply, profoundly hate their guts for at least 2 generations. The Israeli will never live in peace.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

Welcome to Israel. Hell, welcome to fascism in general. You think these people actually want peace? I mean I guess they do, but only if that peace is built on the corpses of their enemies.

they don't want peace. they want eternal war.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 week ago

I got banned from a subreddit for wishing that the golden pager would explode on Trump too.

Worth it.