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[–] stupe@lemmy.zip 233 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't trust them either.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 113 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah. As much as I want them to keep fighting, it's probably for the better they don't in this case. I've realized that the GOP want people to keep appealing and have it go straight to SCOTUS.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 77 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if this SCOTUS starts handing down "rulings" for Null v Null cases - completely unsolicited and unprompted bans and overturns of settled precedent. In other words, literally lawmaking from the bench, the thing that fascist conservatives have been disingenuously railing against for years.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They already did that with Roe. Suddenly decided that 50 years of precedent didn't matter and overnight destroyed all confidence the country had in the SC.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A case still had to make it's way to them. They will drop that pretense soon enough.

They'll just reveal "the Willard case", a 6-0 decision, that the 19th Amendment to the Contitution is Unconstitutional. It cites the Pragmatic Sanction, a foundational text to our Republic, as the reason that women are not allowed to vote or hold property.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Feels like they’d go after 14th before 19th. Since it enables so many other things and they want slavery back.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 6 points 2 days ago

I uh, I hate the be the one to tell you this.

The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.

Slavery never went away, it just needs an extra step. It's why Republicans criminalize "being Black," why they love to criminalize lots of things they don't like. In fact they probably would love to keep the 13th exactly as it is because it gives them perfect cover for the rubes. "We're not racist, we just don't like criminals!"

As for the 14th, they don't have to burn it, they just have to constantly reinterpret it around White Grievance politics. See the redistricting fight currently happening today. Drawing voting districts to accurately represent minority populations in Congress is "akshually racist against white people."

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fascists speaking out of both sides of their mouths? Unheard of!

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

unpossible!

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online -1 points 2 days ago

The Dems finally figured out it's incredibly stupid to keep fighting and pushing upward when it just results in a net loss for us. Took them a surprisingly long time to figure it out, and we lost a lot of rights, including trans rights, in the progress.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 110 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The supreme court only matters because we believe in it. States could just.. choose not to follow their instructions.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump has been doing it all year so why not

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Because he runs the federal government right now, and the federal government has power over the states, so he will punish them.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They have been coordinating a systematic dismantling of and eventual destruction of democracy and civil society for the better part of a century now. The republicans are the fucking antichrist.

It's so god damned bleak, and this is the endgame. Starve the beast, the southern strategy, the voter suppression and gerrymandering, the union busting, judicial capture, regulatory capture, the lobbying, the ceaseless propaganda machine, the economic sabotage, the normalization of authoritarianism, the rolling back of civil rights, the educational manipulation...

Here's the Project 2025 tracker. They are HALF WAY DONE. In five months. It's fucking done, we're done, democracy is gone, there will be no more free and fair elections, they have us by the balls in a vice, and they will never let go.

https://www.project2025.observer/

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the federal government has power over the states

What if taxes are withheld?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then they'll just print whatever money they decide they need. Taxes are functionally irrelevant.

[–] dabster291@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

zimbabwe strats ftw 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago

Half a year...

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

This is gonna be awesome when it starts happening.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago

Why wouldn’t everyone just trust a corrupt, illegitimate, unelected, unaccountable, fascist organization that shows open contempt for the US Constitution, rule of law, democracy, and basic ethics? /s

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well... expect more of this about a lot of things. We're in the endgame now.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

https://project2025.observer/

They are halfway done. In five months.

Stop lying to yourselves, the only way democracy survives this is with coordinated violent resistance. In any case, the USA is toast, it's gone.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

This endgame is different than last weeks? Don't kid yourself.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gotta wait until the SC has some… personnel vacancies, if you get my drift.

[–] FoxyFerengi@startrek.website 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's four justices over the age of 70 (one is Sotomayor). Not that age means much in regards to mortality when one has the resources that they do

[–] DSTGU@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

I believe above user was subtly referencing other causes for personnel vacancies like being greeted by Luigi's of this world.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Join the club.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Bummer. They since the outcome would be the same, they should make the SC go on record to rule on it. Put it in the history books.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Then it can't be appealed later.

[–] Natanael 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Anything can be reconsidered by a later SCOTUS if they're willing

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah, stare decisis means nothing anymore according to this Supreme court.

They bend over backwards to get the outcome they desire.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I got a fun little thing here in my hand that is quite appealing.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

Knowing this Supreme Court, it could totally be worse than the same outcome.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago

They could also deliberately go out of their way to make it worse.