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Sheinbaum rejects US ‘invasion’ after Trump orders military to target Mexico cartels
(www.theguardian.com)
My money would be on the cartels if this happened.
this post was submitted on 08 Aug 2025
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One does not invite a Fascist into one's country without losing that country
Fuck the us army, I hope they lose this war too.
loosing wars is their thing.
the US military is there to funnel tax dollars to shareholders so they can funnel a minute fraction of those dollars to lobbying bribes.
winning wars isn't profitable. long open ended occupations are far more profitable.
You should lead the charge clown. Who is creating the demand for the illegal drug market? There's your root cause.
open ended occupations are far more profitable.
Ah, one of our major exports: "Occupation as a Service."
If he was gonna do it he would have already. This is BS drama trump is stirring up on an international scale to try and get us to stop talking about the Epstein files. RELEASE THE DAMN FILES.
The 1000 FBI agents are still redacting trumps name from the files, they need more time.
"HOW THE FUCK DID HE END UP IN THAT MANY PLACES!?!?"
I believe it was by airplane.
15 years being Epstein 's best friend will do that
I'm sure epstein kept saying how innocent trump was, that's why he's there so often.
- Yes, I would like a large cheese pizza, as large as trump is innocent.
You know what would be an even better distraction? Actually invading Mexico. You're brushing off this threat and not taking it seriously just like the first election as if he can't possibly be serious and no serious person would go along with it anyway. You can't just sloganeer your way out of this. Hitler is telling us he wants to own the rest of Europe and murder all the Jews. The first of the concentration camps are already complete. He has already begun rounding up undesirables en masse, with effective legal impunity. What the fuck makes you so fucking certain he doesn't want to invade France too?! Wake the fuck up.
The first of the concentration camps are already complete.
The first of the domestic ones. There's still plenty of blacksites all over the world, most notably Salvador, lately.
I seriously can't fathom how anybody can still say "He's probably bluffing again. It's just a joke."
I think you misunderstood me. I do in fact consider it a very serious threat. In fact basically everything trump does is a very serious threat. That's just reality and I think you and I would both agree on that.
I want to make one thing clear, I see absolutely no reason to listen to trump, he is at best a liar, a criminal, and a traitor.
That being said a threat for the sake of distraction, whether empty or not, perfectly fits one of his common propaganda techniques. It would make perfect sense that he is deflecting from something he doesn't want the public to pay attention to, and in my opinion that means the correct course of action(at least for a powerless shmuck like me) is to pay the fuck attention to that thing and to get other people to pay attention to that too. It makes sense that the Epstein files are that thing, since it seems to be one of the only things his base sees as controversial, hence my original comment.
So well that's currently my plan, you got a better one?
yeah no doubt i did.
im sorry i didnt mean to say- I was upset when i wrote that, hard not to be, times bein'. i only meant to say two things can be true at once, just because we need to keep our eye on the ball with this epstein business doesn't mean he won't succeed in distracting us from it by doing something that is more nearly in the realm of "normal execution of presidential duties" like invading another country without bothering to get congress' opinion on the matter, for which there is plenty of precedent.
as for plan? fuuuuck no. I'm figuring we have been sitting around waiting for this liberal utopia to kick in any day now while the dystopiists have been staying up late every night to make sure that doesn't happen, and now, just now we're realizing we've been in a race and missed the buzzer by like a couple decades. People been shouting from the rooftops about "fascist" this and "authoritarian creep" that and it feels like rather than a slow wave of creep its rather the inflection point of a sudden tsunami flood. with all the worst people from 4chan running the fucking country, how can you plan around chaos? isn't that the point of the chaos to begin with?
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Trump doesn't want to seize Mexico like wants to take Canada because Mexico is full of brown people.
Wait, you think white people don't want to take over the country full of brown people? How do you think Colonialism works?
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okay but hear me out
israel doesn’t want to seize gaza because it’s full of brown people
and suddenly everything gets so much worse
mexican cartels are to the US as hamas is to israel - or at least that’s the narrative they’re pushing
The cartels are just becuase Trump doesn't like them
ugh.
The Cartels are pure evil, they aren't 'resistance' they're thugs who murder whole families 3 generations down for not paying them bribes.
The Trump cartel?
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Canada is full of brown people too.
Oh I'm sure Trump plans to 'fix' that
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This justification is straight out of Clear and Present Danger. Also, see Sicario. Big exception being, those anti-cartel operations were black jobs. Now we're openly talking about it!
those black jobs make a lot more sense.
Openly talking about it and framing it like a military invasion is just dumbshit, caveman, jingoistic, sports team levels of bravado. Authoritarian and Fascist strongmen just doing authoritarian fascist strongman things.
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So if the cartels are operating in Mexico and the United States, and Trump's executive order doesn't involve using the military on Mexican territory, I guess it must be to use the military on American territory?
Yeah—now military deployments anywhere in America can be dismissed as part of anti-cartel actions, until they aren’t.
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This is what Project 2025 said wasn't it?
And don't forget all the bullshit claims that people with random tattoos were MS-13 members and sent to El Salvador. Now he'll send the army against whatever tattoo he decides he doesn't like next.
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Mexico has no military that could stop the US. Maybe sanctions...but it's not like saying "no" ever stopped Mango Mussolini.
Mmmmm, don't be too sure.
Yeah, the US has the drones and the tanks and the planes. Remember how well that went in Afghanistan? Iraq, anyone?
They can invade the country and overrun it in seconds, I have no doubt about that. Then, though, the fun starts.
Mexicans, especially those in the cartels, have very creative ways to make people really really regret stepping in the wrong direction.
How many videos of US soldiers slowly being cut into pieces alive and then hung from a bridge, posted on TikTok, do you think it'll take before his base starts getting a very big knot in their stomach?
Then what do you think cartel soldiers already in the US will do? How do you think the Latino community in the US will respond?
If the US invades México, it will destroy México, have no doubt about that.
It will also absolutely end Trump and the US.
The Taliban didn't have a military that could stop the US either. How did that work out again?
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