Clown and clown logic.
Oh well I guess we ddon't get cancer vaccines now.
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Back to the stone age it is!
Toss this guy in prison for a little bit.
Toss this guy in prison for a long bit
Hey! Rfk is only doing as the plague lord wishes. Nurgle demands more ppl experience his blessings.
I had to check if the sub is "The Onion".
I wish that brain worm had been more thorough.
But not for himself
How many people are you going to murder with this one, measles man?
I've spent a lot of time thinking about anti-vax "wellness" bs over the last few weeks because a colleague is has been in my face about their "beliefs", and I have a chronic illness whereby common illnesses like colds and influenza can be a big deal for me.
The thing is, it's all fun and games until it's not.
For example, my parents are in their 80s and they're big into alternative therapies. Like they don't want a covid vaccination but they'll take a course of ivermectin. They don't want to take prescribed diabetes medicine but they'll take Cinnamon or whatever other woo-woo they've seen on facebook. However, when they think they might be having a stroke it's straight up to the emergency department at the hospital for some science based life saving medical intervention. It's amazing to me that they don't acknowledge the discrepancy in their behavior.
It's easy to dismiss mRNA vaccines because of the prevention paradox. Because lock downs and vaccines worked so well, it seems like the underlying problem wasn't that much of a problem. Sure there are some legit risks with the vaccines but they're much better than the alternative of an unvaccinated population.
Since covid, I haven't been able to shake the feeling that another pandemic is just around the corner. If something more serious and deadly than covid arises people will be scrambling all over each other to inject anything that purports to reduce the likelihood of infection.
I think it's pretty common for people to think doctors are great at treating acute conditions (stroke, broken bones, severe illness) but distrust advice on chronic conditions. So this may not be something they see as a discrepancy. And I can kind of see it if I squint - people on lots of medicines are often sick, and people on none healthier, and they may think this causation runs in the opposite direction, that they can magically join the healthy group by not taking medicines.
Your parents are idiots; they make the hypocritical arguments of idiots.
Unfortunately, for several decades in the US, we've been culturally conditioned to "respect" others' beliefs, rather than hold up a mirror to their idiocy.
No more. They're idiots. If they don't want scientific solutions, if they want to undermine the work and intellectual efforts required to create a healthy society, then they're a stone around our necks.
Sure ok. I'm not going to defend my parents behavior, but I will point out that this type of thing is probably more prevalent than you think.
When half the world are "idiots" you have to wonder what is supporting that attitude.
It's anti-intellectualism, which arises from being treated like idiots by intellectuals.
I don't think we're conditioned to respect others beliefs, rather we're conditioned to ignore them provided that they're not harming others.
It's probably a lot more than just one thing, or another.
There are a great many people who simply have no intellectual curiosity. People with zero interest in seeking out and verifying new information, who feel no impetus to figure things out for themselves, or who resent those more knowledgeable than themselves because they see that information asymmetry as a personal attack. People who aren't curious about anything are idiots.
The issue that you describe- intellectuals treating idiots like idiots, is probably rooted in years, or decades of one-sided conversations, or trying to hold conversations with people who don't feel the need to argue in good faith. At a certain point, low information people with low curiosity are a burden to engage with, let alone attempt to meet as peers. I'm not saying that's right, but I can understand it.
For those who retain curiosity, Education and exposure are probably the best way to thwart the rise of idiots, which is probably why public access to high quality information and education resources have been massively curtailed, and/or monetized to the nth degree over the last 40 years. There is a distinct correlation between broad idiocy, and declining quality of life in industrialized nations, and that has certainly been the paradigm in the US.
So, we understand where the idiots are coming from and who benefits from their lack of understanding, we just need the idiots to understand WHO is depending on their remaining useful and WHY they have been denied a path toward bettering themselves. And, of course, the crux of the matter is that idiots cling to their idiocy as an integral aspect of their identity, which means any real changes will have to be long term solutions, wherein children of idiots are allowed to break the cycle leading to better understanding and insight. But there are challenges inherent in that evolution too, as you underscored poignantly; it can be stark and lonesome and heartbreaking for children to realize that their parents are idiots.
Since covid, I haven't been able to shake the feeling that another pandemic is just around the corner
It probably is, we've created a perfect environment for COVID and flu like viruses thanks to climate change, airtravel and factory farming. This stuff is only going to be more common if we don't stop or reduce these things. The future is bright and with bright I mean heatwaves and pandemics
Fucking cunt bastard and his brain worms. Absolutely nothing redeeming.
God I really fucking hate that guy.
Aside from all the people he’s gonna kill, he has such a punchable face
He also has a super annoying voice.
... and he looks like he's wearing someone elses face.
History will remember this administration as one of the worst. These fuckers are all writing their own chapters in history books as full fuck-tard level. They will be looked back on with shame and embarrassment. Let this be their legacy. They are not the problem. The problem is the 55% of the voting populace that voted for them. America needs to improve our educational system so these our population isn’t as fucking stupid as we are.
America needs to improve our educational system
What also infuriates me is some of the supposedly educated people are also for that garbage regime, either blindly supporting it for confirming their fascist beliefs, or because they see it as an opportunity to make money from misery.
That includes the techbros. And CEOs of MLMs.
They honestly believe that they will be remembered as legendary heroes, primarily because they believe that they will be writing the history. They don't understand that there are other nations with scholars and historians, too, and they'll be writing accounts of this administration as well.
One of the worst so far!
One expert, who asked not to be named for fear of reprisal
Look what you’ve done.
Kennedy is generally opposed to vaccines, but he is particularly hostile to mRNA-based vaccines
I reckon the mistake was calling them mRNA vaccines. Yes, that's what they are, but RNA sounds scawy and vaccines cause autism and homosexuality, so something with some razz to it would be the right call...
"What's going on here?! Is that an RNA experiment?"
"Umm. It's a-... Um .. Elixir."
"Oh, I see. And how does it work?"
"...universe stuff. It's complicated, sir. Sugar, nitrogen, phosphate... "
"Indeed. I've seen those on a cereal boxes before, and nitrogen is from that racing movie with the pretty women. What's it do?
"It's for...um...mosquito bites. Also a good degreaser. Jenkins has it in his head it cures viruses too, ha. We'd obviously have to test first."
"I like that Jenkins. Which viruses?"
" The annoying ones."
"What about viruses that put thoughts about a person's daughter in their head all the time?"
"...Sure."
rolls up sleeves "Give it to me. Right above the lamprey hickey there's a good vein. You're doing good work here, son. We'll up the budget to get this Elixir of the Universe out to the shamans."
This is brilliant. Most of us are having a good laugh, but I suspect that someone, somewhere, on a research team, is also taking a few notes.
His worms has finally taken complete control.
I just don't get the incongruity of the Trump admin. In pretty much every other area they are "show me the money".
big tech AI: whatever you guys want!
crypto: whatever you guys want!
big banks: whatever you guys want!
big oil: whatever you guys want!
big pharma vaccines: No, this is where we must draw the line!
the only constant is "maximum damage".
It’s pretty simple. If it helps the rich or his grifter friends then this administration is all for it.
If it helps the average Joe, then fuck that.
But even then it makes no sense! The rich aren’t immune to disease… I don’t even know who is meant to make money on this shit
Right but the rich will still have real doctors with real medicine on call (or they can just travel to a country with real medicine).
When Mao Zedong unified thousands of years of quackery and superstition into "Traditional Chinese Medicine" to placate the masses need for healthcare, he kept real doctors on hand, because he knew it was all bunk.
You got to follow the money, sorta
The rich will always have access to good drugs and treatments that work. They will peddle any snake oil nonsense that they think will make them more money or whatever they think their followers will buy to make them look better in their eyes. It’s a take as old as time in politics/religion.
Back a year or so ago I remember posts on Reddit and other places where there was some deep dives into RFK JR and his investments in the supplement industry. The reason they are cheering him on is because he stands to make so much money by ditching common sense medical practices and pushing vitamins and supplements that he has a hand in.
If you want to learn more about his background Behind the Bastards did a multi part podcast on him last year (I think it was now) that was worth a listen. While it is a little outdated it does go into his childhood and really explore how he got so fucked up. Dude was (and probably still is) a serious crack head and narcissist.
Suddenly wishing big pharma were better friends with and getting bigger handouts from the admin WHATTT is this world
If only they’d paid the piper…
The problem is that biotech and pharma are much more directly involved in and constrained by actual science and data, which the orangeboi regime is highly allergic to.
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Rfk jr was running as an independent with about 10% of the votes.
The dumbest pieces of human shit run the United States. We have a representative form of government. There are 77 million pieces of human shit in America.
The USA has really done an amazing job of finding the absolute worst and most incompetent people and placing them in the highest positions of power. It's the kakiest of kakistocracies.
Don't elevate them to the level of human shit, that kinda of language is way to nice for describing republicans.
Holy shit, 2019. I know he was a known asshole then, but still, it only gets more true with time!
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OK, read the article, and I'll go a little off track.
I think the sticking point is American education. When mRNA vaccines came out people where screaming, "It alters your DNA!!" Well. OK. That idea is ignorant on the face of it.
Know what? I have basic, even college level, biology under my belt. Had never heard of mRNA! Imagine not being able to pronounce "deoxyribonucleic acid". Can you see how these dumbasses conflate the two?
Read the article! It was hard for me to parse. Imagine knowing less biology than your average bear. No wonder these people are easily fooled!
"Meh. Big words, can't pronounce. Sounds good!"
And to my shame, I didn't stop to think it all through. But I trust the experts, and I don't trust these experts.
So, what's the end game here? Please, stifle the snark. Merely playing on ignorance for votes? Surely there's more to it than that?
RFK is a bit of an anomaly in the Trump administration. He's an environmental lawyer who fights against corporations. He's rich so can't be bought by pharma lobbying. He is in the administration because Trump "bought" his voters. This position was his price.
I think he actually believes in the public good, but he's not particularly clever and is easily swayed by pseudo science.
He can see that big phama has made and will make billions out of mRNA technology and is suspicious. Now he has the power to cut spending and that aligns with republican goals.
At some point RFK jr will upset the corporatocracy and Trump will fire him.
*plutocracy.
True. Maybe the recent shift from corporatocracy to plutocracy will keep RFK in power longer than I expect.
So... same shit different day?
Doesn’t something usually happen to Kennedys by now?
Just the good ones....
Fuck him and every other republican asshole.
Can we impeach this fucker at least?
Congress needs to run backwards through a field of viruses.
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