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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (26 children)

Not many countries had to arm the person next to the coach driver to fight off natives defending their country against foreign invaders.

This obe didn't either. Staying home was usually an option.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 130 points 4 days ago (2 children)

thats a stagecoach thing, right?

[–] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 118 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Yeah it was bench seating so one guy had the reins and the other had a shotgun. Hence the name.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 62 points 4 days ago (7 children)

its interesting the slang that persists...

"i call getting to shoot people!"

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean, it's still America.

I guess the location of the shooting has changed though. It should mean having your desk at the front of the classroom by the teacher's desk now.

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[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Gringo explaining a horse carriage: Imagine a gun

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[–] rockstarmode@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The apocryphal story is actually kind of interesting.

Roads and right of way established during the pre-firearm era were that you'd ride on the left, with people going the opposite way on your right. This was so you could use your dominant hand (usually your right) to use a sword to defend yourself.

Roads after firearms were available often established right of way with riding on the right, with oncoming traffic on the left. This is because when you shoulder a firearm on your right shoulder it's easier to aim left.

Stagecoach drivers would sit in the left seat, with the extra person sitting on the right, holding a shotgun, hence the colloquial term for the front passenger seat.

I have no idea how true this is, but it makes for an interesting story.

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[–] brisk@aussie.zone 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In Australia: yes and it's commonplace. But like 70% of our media is American so unsurprising.

You're basically americans with going outside instead of corn.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Now I'd like to know why in France it's la place du Mort, the seat of the dead...

[–] vivendi@programming.dev 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

While this is probably some bullshit from the horse drawn carriage era, what I'd like to say is that statistically speaking riding shotgun is the most dangerous seat in car crashes, so the saying still works

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Because they didn't have a shotgun.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago

Shotgun is an America thing, coming from the stagecoach era. The shotgun in question has a shortened barrel for reduced storage footprint.

The BMW R12 has a sidecar mounted with an MG 42 light machine gun. But no-one calls sidecar gunner

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Years ago I read "shotgun wedding" and thought it was common to see a guy having to marry a girl he fucked while her father was there at the side with a rifle.

Capaz son asi andá a saber...

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It means "quick marriage because the bride is pregnant" and that is 100% the origin of the phrase.

Particularly in poorer, rural parts of the USA having a child out of wedlock was incredibly shameful, and the financial burden of a single motherhood was intolerable. So the bride's family would ensure the man responsible married their daughter ... regardless of how he felt about it. Sometimes that meant having a shotgun at the wedding to ensure he didn't run off.

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

After thw wedding is done the father goes "And kid you'd be no smoking anymore get me? I don't wanna hear you went to buy a pack or whatever..."

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

NL here. "Shotgun" is a concept, though mostly through Pop Culture Osmosis.

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 days ago

My kids say "Chewbacca!"

[–] railcar@midwest.social 11 points 3 days ago

It's still relevant. I always hand my passengers a pistol before disembarking.

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

That is purely an American thing.

Not saying my family had someone in the passenger seat with a shotgun to protect their batch of white lightning...also not saying they did.

[–] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nope. Canada had stagecoach and shotguns too. So did Mexico. The Sundance Kid owned a bar in Calgary at one point, and worked out at the Bar U ranch near Calgary before that.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

That's like an amazing American showerthought, I never even considered it

[–] lime@feddit.nu 20 points 4 days ago

you know, it just never comes up. mostly because i'm over 190cm so there's no question of where i get to sit when not driving...

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