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The vast majority of Israelis say they are not troubled by reports of famine and suffering in Gaza, a new poll released by the Israel Democracy Institute shows.

The survey shows that 79 percent of Jews in Israel were not troubled, or troubled at all, whereas 86 percent of “Arab” respondents were somewhat or very troubled by the reports about the war on Gaza.

The survey was conducted between 27-31 July.

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[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 78 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah a nation of mostly Zionists would think that, wouldn't they?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

A nation of mostly fascists. Zionism is about the creation of a religious nationalist ethnostate through genocide.

It's pure unbridled fascism, and Israelis have been indoctrinated to believe it's okay when they do it since birth, as has a significant proportion of the Jewish diaspora. That's why the genocide continues, and why Israel is the most dangerous threat to Jewish people since Nazism.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not quite. Zionism is about creating a secular nationalist ethnostate through genocide, with religious dressing simply as a way to get more religious Jews on board. It's no coincidence that early Zionist leaders were all unapologetically atheist.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago

I think there’s been a pretty significant divergence from the original Zionist leaders to modern day Zionism. The seeds were there, obviously, but things have deteriorated even further in the past few decades.

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[–] Blubber28@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I will never claim that all jews are bad because Israel is fucked up, nor will I ever claim that all catholics are bad because of the Spanish Inquisition or all muslims are bad because of the terrorists. It is true that not all people who follow those religions are bad.

However, one cannot deny the religious motivations. They are doing this because they believe that their sky daddy promised them that land, just like the catholics who did commit the inquisition believed their sky daddy wanted a pure catholic europe, and the racidal muslims believe their sky daddy wants to punish unvelievers/misbelievers.

[–] jouhija@sopuli.xyz -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If the only country that revolves around your religion is this evil, maybe it's time to put a thinking cap on instead of whatever religious headwear you have and take a deep look into your soul

And if after that you still think that whatever mumbo-jumbo you believe is all right then maybe it's time to remove yourself from our collective gene pool

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is just ignorant. There's only 14 million Jews in the world and 90% of them either live in the US or Israel. If there were 1.9 billion Jews like there were muslims, for example, we would start seeing a bunch of different states that act very differently from other. I think most people can agree that Iran under the Mullah regime and Afghanistan under the Taliban are evil, but at the same time, there are also islamic countries like Albania and Kazakhstan that are pretty normal. Trying to judge all Jews off the actions off of the actions of Israel, it's like judging all muslims off of the actions of Pakistan or all Christians off of the actions of Brazil. It's just silly.

[–] jouhija@sopuli.xyz 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's ignorant to call out dumbasses who believe in fairy tales? Okay then, haven't seen this sort of Zionist propaganda before

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

No, there's a difference between being critical of a religion and judging an entire religious demographic on the actions of a particular state.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

Dehumanization of the enemy is part of what enables genocidal actions.

[–] JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Funny, I'm not bothered by Israeli death and suffering either. 🤷

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[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

One reason, maybe not the only one, could be that they’re being told it’s all lies or in any case untrustworthy reports, or hugely exaggerated. I’ve seen many examples of this.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

No, they probably even enjoy those reports.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Rephrase the question, "Do you fear the consequences of facing trials after the war, similar to how the nazi enablers did?"

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That fear depends on a real threat of someone holding them accountable and being able to bring them to trial. Which country or countries would be willing and able to do this? The Nazis were unafraid until defeat started to loom as a real prospect.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The chances of that happening are pretty much nil. Not as long as the US keeps supporting them and even if they stop supporting tjem, Israel has nukes.

The only way it could happen is if there was a push for accountability from the population of Israel but polls like this shows that's not gonna happen either as the population supports this.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

They've been conditioned over the decades to consider them to be subhuman. I'm not saying that they are innocent, just that this is what they believe. Their propaganda is so effective that they no longer feel remorse for killing them as they see them as savages or monsters. In fact, they see themselves as the heroes of the story. And with every western country backing them up and giving them more weapons, what else would they think?

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They’re inundated with propaganda (like we all are), and they can’t face the fact that their own government is committing such horrors. Plus, they just don’t want to think critically about the situation.

None of that excuses them, but simply writing them off as “evil” doesn’t help.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

The propaganda is the zionist believe that rhe whole land belong to them and thst jews are superior to other people

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago

Writing them off as evil might not help, but understanding that they're fascists certainly does. You can't have peace with fascists until they're thoroughly beat down.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes they're demons. We know.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Don't call fascists demons. They're people. Any people can go fascist when the circumstances are right. This "fascists are demons, not reasonable people like us" attitude breeds complacency and an unwillingness to look directly at what fascism is and how it arises and functions, and that's part of the reason fascism has come back to bite us hard.

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[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 0 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

let's ask Americans about the 2 million people they have incarcerated domestically next

gang what if the volk are bad actually??

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

"The volk are bad" is the whole premise behind eugenics and genocide to begin with. It's how you get to mass media referring to rival ethnicities and neighboring populations as "bug people" and stirring up existential dread of The Mob of Others.

We've had an uninterrupted sixty year string of refugees moving to Israel, getting handed parcels of stolen land, meeting the people it was stolen from, and then having the government/media say "THEY WANT TO KILL YOU!" over and over again while they further immiserate the captive native population.

"Obviously, the problem here is that people are inherently awful" seems to miss the deliberately engineered madness machine that is driving otherwise normal, peaceful, happy people into a frenzy of desperation and hate.

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[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Why did they put quotation marks around Arab? It sounds like they're doubting the people were actually Arab. Looks real gross.

Edit: should really read articles before posting. The quotes are a critique of the study as far as I can tell. The study refers to Palestinians living in Israel as "Arabs". If the study doesn't properly identify the individuals it's researching I have serious doubts about the legitimacy of the results.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

The study refers to Palestinians living in Israel as “Arabs”. If the study doesn’t properly identify the individuals it’s researching I have serious doubts about the legitimacy of the results.

My understanding is that Israel has a distinction between Israeli citizens who are ethnically Arab and Palestinians from the Palestinian territories who aren't citizens and are de facto treated as foreigners.

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