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The vast majority of Israelis say they are not troubled by reports of famine and suffering in Gaza, a new poll released by the Israel Democracy Institute shows.

The survey shows that 79 percent of Jews in Israel were not troubled, or troubled at all, whereas 86 percent of “Arab” respondents were somewhat or very troubled by the reports about the war on Gaza.

The survey was conducted between 27-31 July.

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[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Remember when the US beat the Nazis? This is exactly like that, but instead imagine we sent the Nazis billions of dollars and weapons to enable them.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago

And also became Nazis ourselves.

[–] suspicious_hyperlink@lemmy.today 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Propaganda still works to this day

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Yep. The Nazis were people just like anyone else who gained the consent of the population. We learned nothing.

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago

Gaza genocide denials are new holocaust denials.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

What horrible pieces of shit.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 23 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

Sick, fascist country. They need to be occupied, reconstructed, and de-nazified.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, even just being allowed to sink or swim on their own would have prevented this. They've grown brutal and callous because the US has shielded them from any consequences of that.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The U.S. won't be of much help to them when climate change comes tapping at their back door.

Nature bats last

[–] Dagwood_Sanwich@lemmy.world -5 points 8 hours ago

You're sounding mighty Putinish there.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago

Don't mistake government-controlled or government-aligned media propaganda with the actual civilian populace.

Would you trust Netanyahu's allies to put out fair, representative journalism about what is important to the general population?

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Middle East Eye is a notorious propaganda outlet, especially on this conflict. I would take anything they say with a grain of salt, including their interpretations of polls and surveys. I personally recommend everybody here to actually look at the original source and the same information referenced directly from there. The survey cited in this article is pretty extensive, and I think it's worth taking a look at:

https://en.idi.org.il/articles/60357

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

So exactly what the article states. Jewish Israelis do not believe mass starvation of Palestinians matters.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Sir, this is Lemmy. Get your information hygiene out of there!

...Seriously though, subtle rewording makes a huge difference:

The majority of Jewish respondents think that, given the circumstances of the fighting in Gaza, Israel is making efforts to avoid causing suffering to the Palestinian population there. The majority of Arab respondents think that even with the restrictions imposed by the fighting, Israel could have done more to reduce this suffering. Among Jews, only on the Left is there a majority who think that Israel is not making the necessary efforts to reduce suffering.

On a personal level, the majority in the Center and on the Right (Jewish respondents) say that they are not troubled by the reports of famine and suffering among the Palestinian population in Gaza. On the Left, the majority reported that they are personally troubled by these reports.

The majority of the Jewish public believes the IDF’s reporting on the extent of Palestinian civilian casualties in Gaza

In other words, Jewish respondents believe Israel is making efforts to avoid suffering, not that they approve of the suffering, and the national mood is very low.

Propaganda works.

So do clickbait tabloid headlines.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Sorry bud, the original source doesn't make Israelis look better.

Israelis think that because they believe the IDF. You literally just read the first paragraph and are acting like the responsible one doing real research.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

because they believe the IDF.

Exactly.

They believe what they're told. But the headline makes it seem like they're cheering on starvation in front of their eyes.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago
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[–] uienia@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago

Dehumanisation succesful.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago

Israel is a extremely racist nation and Palestinians are just "human animals" and even "vermin" to most Israelis.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

When I went to Israel last time I was genuinely surprised how many zealots there are. Most Israelis you meet outside of the country are just normal people but Israel itself is still full of mentally deranged. Religion is a hell of a drug.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

If you really mean Israelis outside of Israel and not just Jewish people, that's probably just code shifting. They know their opinions aren't acceptable outside their bubble, so they keep quiet. It's the same way a white supremacist will talk differently if they think any random white guy shares their views vs when an imposing minority is in the room.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 19 hours ago

My long-time ex was Jewish, can confirm. They were alright but their zionist relatives absolutely dropped some fucking bombs (proverbial, probably literal now) during family gatherings. The mildest was the tired old "part of being a good Jew is supporting Israel" ranging up to "Palestinians are subhuman and should be exterminated". Mind, this was over twenty years ago and the situation has demonstrably escalated since.

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The reason for this is that Israel has a lot of ultra orthodox Jews, and they can be pinpointed as THE source of the insanity inside the country. They don't contribute economically, they're always calling for wars and violence but they refuse to participate in the military, they throw tantrums when anything doesn't go their way, and they're always trying to coerce society to be more religiously extreme.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Yeah it's so disappointing to see a culture being held hostage by extremists. It's almost like west Asia can never fucking escape these zealots ruining it for everybody.

As someone wirh west Asian roots I wonder how incredible the region would be without religion.

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Rotten from the roots up

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago

Yes, poll after poll has shown this. Israelis by and large are behind the genocide. They're okay with it they approve of it and they like it. They're not being forced to murder an entire people. They're gleeful about it.

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 78 points 1 day ago (17 children)

yeah a nation of mostly Zionists would think that, wouldn't they?

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

That's exactly as surprising as the sunrise.

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