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    I've always liked systemd.

    I'm learning FreeBSD and the training wheels are off having to learn RC. I should've done this years ago.

    On that, anyone know how to pull core temps off a 20 year old Celeron D in OpenBSD? That and my internal PC speaker are the only things I don't have working yet.

    [–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    systemd was a solution in search of a problem. I saw it that way when it came along and still see it that way. I'm sure as usual that will ruffle the feathers of the zealots and fanatics. So be it. I'm not expressing their opinion on systemd but my own. I don't see how its an improvement sysvinit. I can' do the same things with both and indeed still maintain a sysvinit linux system that works just fine without systemd being involved.

    [–] kadup@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    systemd was a solution in search of a problem

    Systemd solved lots of problems for me and made things easier so you know... I guess they succeeded.

    [–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    Such as initscripts being a nightmare to maintain, and insufficient for the complexity of a modern system. Read about it here: https://redlib.privacyredirect.com/r/archlinux/comments/4lzxs3/why_did_archlinux_embrace_systemd/

    You didn't realize there was a problem to solve because others, the distro maintainers and developers, worked their asses off to solve that problem for you.

    [–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Standard boiler plate response to not having had to ever do this. I started with Slackware Linux and still keep a installation around to keep up with how things work. I solve my own problems and its for that reason You're explanation falls short. In truth it isn't that difficult and it many ways preferable to not hand over control of services to one over reaching controller. I've had systemd hangup where sysv would have just kept on sailing.

    Its perhaps because I have so much experience with both that I can truly see how systemd isn't the cure all its purported to be.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    Now go back and actually read what I linked. The comments too. And don't dismiss those points just because the old ways work for you.

    [–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Why would I go read through another thread someone posted about the same fud? This somehow constitutes proof since it backs up your bias. Its the same old argument without any real examples. Only generalizations. Plus its from a arch post. If you are going to use arch why not just fall back to Slackware for your daily driver? I don't have any more trouble with sysv than I do with systemd. You have failed utterly to present anything compelling to alter my perception of this situation.

    [–] oshu@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    who is being forced to use systemd and how are they forcing you?

    [–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 5 days ago

    Oh, I guess I'll just downvote you too then.

    [–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 6 days ago

    Who are you asking?

    [–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 101 points 1 week ago (36 children)

    It's almost as if people think systemd is one massive executable rather than a suite of tools

    [–] killingspark@feddit.org 6 points 6 days ago

    Well it is also a massive executable in the mix there

    [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 80 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    Nah, it's a single executable, like GNU.

    [–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

    Yes, GNU.exe, I know it well.

    [–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    All that happens at boot is that linux.exe calls systemd.exe, uses all your system resources making your machine unusable bloat.

    [–] Auth@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    when you first boot Systemd calls back to Redhat HQ: "Mr Pottering, we got him"

    [–] udon@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

    When did you last update your system? It should call Microsoft, not Red Hat.

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    OP when systemd successfully wipes his ass altr

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