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My dad just made his trip back from Shenzhen and told me a funny story when he got a drone for my siblings to learn, that he visited a drone factory by random invitation out of the blue from a manager and while checking out the office he saw something hilarious, on the left side of the office there's Ukraine flag with all the plans and order lists, and on the right side of the office there's orders with Russian flag. He said near the end of the hall he saw the same thing with Iran and Israel.

Let me rewind a story only Chinese and the diasporas knew why Ukrainians regardless of how Americans on reddit lie about them, deep down they know they still have China supports. When the USSR collapsed, Ukraine heavy industry rapidly decline and scientists out of work, China came in and Paperclipped like thousands of former Soviet Ukrainian workers, engineers and scientists to Shanghai within at least 10 plus years and built an entire neighborhood for them in Shanghai to work for Chinese industries. Ukraine helped China military through two most important projects, that's the Liao Ning carrier, originally a half completed Soviet carrier sold to a Singaporean Chinese athlete who didn't smoke or drink but had to turn underground in order to haul the carrier back to China. Before it even happened, American Navy Seals blew it up then weld it back together and repaint as new, they even openly said it would turn to pieces on the sea after 5 years. The Liao Ning was sent to retrieve the DF-31AG warhead fired last year. The second project is the Su-33 also sold for cheap by Ukraine to China that birthed J-15. Another example for Iran, the Spike ATGM reverse engineering while was done by DPRK and IRGC, the original clone they based on was from a Chinese arm supplier. In reverse, Israel had sold Patriot SAM components to China.

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