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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 44 minutes ago

Integrity is most common in other countries, but not in the united states.

[–] Peereboominc@piefed.social 47 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Why even have the system with districts? Just calculate all the votes and see who wins? If you live in a place where most people vote x, why even bother to vote y. Your vote will go straight in the bin.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 28 points 4 hours ago

just one of the many reasons you see such consistent low turnouts in american elections

[–] rymden_viking@lemmy.world 22 points 4 hours ago

The idea was that you get direct representation - your representative should be focused on your issues and the issues plaguing people in your district. But it breaks down today because politicians in the US just vote with their party.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 64 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

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Some of these are absolutely insane

[–] Carighan@piefed.world 2 points 21 minutes ago

I request all districts are now Penrose tiled using the Einstein hat!

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 34 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)
[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

🎵how insane can you go?🎶

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 29 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Both sides have had opportunities to make it illegal and neither have done it. I wonder why.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Because you never were a democracy

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm not USA or from USA.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 23 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, a common pattern in pseudo democracies like Hungary...

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 hour ago

Also Japan, India, Malaysia.

Even the UK has covert influence from politics on district drawing tho officially its “independent commission”.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 41 points 9 hours ago (9 children)

In my opinion there shouldn't be districts at all. Too much potential for fuckery.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 24 points 6 hours ago

Proportional representation is the way. X% of the vote means X% of seats, no shenanigans

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The secret is that you need proportional elections within each district. What also implies that they should be bigger...

Or, in other words, just copy Switzerland and you'll be fine.

(Personally, I'm divided. The largest scale your election is, the most voice you give to fringe distributed groups. I can't decide if this is good or bad.)

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[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

The limit (with infinite districts made of infinite people) is theoretically 1/4 support, in a 2 party system, with a choice made from separately decided districts. If you add another level of districts, it could be 1/8, another would be 1/16, and so on.

In practice you can't make a district with a actually 100% support of the opposing party, and you need to leave a little room for error in the districts you plan to win. Also there aren't an infinite number of districts lol

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 7 hours ago

republicans always use the 4th one, and they make it more convoluted each time to adjust for population growth or loss, im guessing thats why they keep redrawing them, because smaller towns or cities often get so low in population overtime.

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 25 points 9 hours ago

In the USA, politicians chose the voters!

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The more I hear about this Jerry Mander fella, the less I care for him.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 25 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

You jest, but it was named after a person:

The term "gerrymander" originated in 1812 from the redrawing of Massachusetts state senate election districts under Governor Elbridge Gerry. The newly shaped districts, particularly one in Essex County, were said to resemble a mythological salamander. Federalist party members, critical of the practice, coined the term "Gerry-mander" (later shortened to gerrymander) by combining Gerry's name with "salamander"

[–] Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

Fuck you Gerry, fuck you and your fucking madering

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 176 points 14 hours ago (17 children)

Gerrymandering should be a crime and conviction should mean removal from office and a life long ban on working in politics.

Now we just need a way to do that that isn't vigilante violence.

It is kind of frustrating how every system needs to resist people (usually conservatives) from acting in bad faith.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 113 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Now we just need a way to do that

I have some ideas.

that isn't vigilante violence.

Oh. Nevermind...

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 39 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

We need drastic change but not using the one proven method of bringing it!

Classic

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[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Non-surprisingly it exists in some form in anglo countries.
UK and Canada

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