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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

For fuck sake, there are bigger problems than trying to read the memes I send to my mates. What’s next ? Install a camera in the toilet to be sure you pee correctly?

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

tbf society would be noticeably better if people accepted that toilet seat lid down when flushing is the only correct option

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

the CULTURAL MARXISTS want to STEAL YOUR COUNTRY by allowing TRANSGENDER MIGRANTS to DESTROY OUR TRADITION of leaving the lID UP when FHUSHING we must PROTECT OUR COUNTRYby installing cameras in th e toilet to SAVETHINK OF THE CHILDREN covefef

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
I told you.  We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune.  We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.
[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

America is on its way to doing that. Because MAGA want to cock check every person going into a bathroom now.

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, do you have to hide something? Like unregulated peeing

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll have you know that not conforming to article 53-2 of the Urine Act is a criminal offense

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looks like they will be going after providers, so plebs will need to lean into decentralized products even harder.

They never were able to defeat BitTorrent for a good reason. Decentralized approach is the only way to fight back against these clown regimes

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No way this passes. If it does I imagine WhatsApp will withdraw from the market and people will hop to session/matrix/element/signal or jailbreak.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they failed ton of times but it only takes once for them to win. i don't see how this does not pass a some point. it is a question of when imho

Faceberg will comply also, why wouldnt he, he makes money either way.

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Loss in global trust. If the EU app scans people’s messages people will just say they’re probably doing it for everyone. They also risk losing their near-global dominance if all their tech savvy users pick a new home and trigger a chain reaction bringing everyone with them. Next thing you the rest of the world starts ditching WhatsApp for a superior alternative (which predominantly just lack users currently)

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't agree with the analysis but this not how these clowns have been acting historically imho

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who, WhatsApp? They've fought via the legal system to retain privacy a few times.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago

So did apple... Its all a charade

[–] Ardyssian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

This would be interesting to observe if it actually played out, but I think we're underestimating user inertia here, looking at how many people still use WhatsApp / Telegram over Signal, or Reddit over Lemmy ... apathy is strong in these times

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

At this point I'm all in for the collapse of modern society just for the fact that governments around the world are ruining it. Like, is the convenience of technology really that worth it when it's constantly being used against us?

At the end of the day, I'd rather read a newspaper than risk getting my identity stolen because I had to provide an ID to read an article about the war in Ukraine. And I'd rather write a letter or use a landline than risk my private messages getting leaked all over the internet because the government wanted a centralized database of all our messages.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every phone call in the United States, and most likely elsewhere, is recorded by NSA surveillance systems, transcribed, and kept indefinitely by the NSA. Did you forget what Snowden showed? And this was back in the mid 2010s.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/03/18/291165247/report-nsa-can-record-store-phone-conversations-of-whole-countries

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Bro is talking US in an EU thread 💀

[–] EntropyPure@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe Trump trampling all over everyone changed something, but to state „Something the NSA is doing is ONLY happening in the US, and surely no EU agency is doing the same or helping the NSA“ is a bit naive.

Germany hosts the biggest network node in Europe with DECIX and the German equivalent of the NSA is known and authorized by courts to monitor all traffic there

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You think it's any different in Europe? The NSA is snooping all the calls in the US, and they're also snooping all the calls in the EU. And the EU country intelligence agencies are doubtlessly doing the same. I only use the NSA example because it's one we have good evidence for.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bro said EU as bad as US 💀

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How's that militant nationalism treating you?

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

Bro thinks I am a politics person and not just doing a bit for fun 💀

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Who's gonna print your newspaper when all society has broken down?

But yeah, fuck this authoritarian bullshit.

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Shall I recommend a movie called Captive State

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

I remember about a year ago people panned “accelerationists” myself included. Now I’m not so sure they don’t have a good idea….

[–] TheFrogThatFlies@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is there anything that we can do to fight back? We were able to stop the killing of videogames, can't we do the same for it freedom?

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago

I mean the only reason it hasn't passed yet (it was originally proposed in 2022) is because there has been quite a bit of opposition.

Maybe start here: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/#WhatYouCanDo

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well sheeeeeeeeeeeit, why not outlaw HTTPS while you're at it?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago

Not at all! HTTPS is good & safe - you just need to allow the government to decrypt all of it somewhere along the way.

And yea, I know it doesn't make sense.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Okay here ya go:

0HVPkX48]CZgwlodm1VXzbFEaH8CfTmyewp7uTLDJ0Qc0v]9vOqOkgE9Jyxi]MA3EuKi9FFDVyszvfHalqXnDsAXJ8kzXpzKFZF)rU5EAGGOECin]DWwdgBLTsObag74Z]TXufBRYMDnlosL3aQwTO1hMA!

Scan deez nuts

Decrypt it you say? Oh no no no, its just a randomly generated password I sent to my friend because I want to share an account, totally is not a ciphertext, don't worry 😉

[–] inna@lemmings.world 4 points 1 week ago

That will put many companies and individuals at risk - lawyers, doctors, business owners. Hopefully it won’t happen and the people can join to fight together.

But what about the age verification that is about to happen in EU. The open source project in GitHub is just a reference and every country will implement it however they want. Even if it’s zero proof knowledge it doesn’t mean it would be bidirectional ZPK. It doesn’t mean the app won’t collect any information about the websites you visit, your email info or ip. We should be able to do something

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm confused. Even WA has full encryptrion nowadays, which means they themselves don't know what's in the messages. How is this even supposed to work?

[–] D06M4@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Closed source software from a notoriously corrupt company and it's encryption keys are not ever in users' control. You should assume apps like that are already backdoored. Matrix/XMPP/Briar/SimpleX is probably the way to go. Either that or manage your own encryption methods, but take into account other info such as your contacts list can also be used against you.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 1 week ago

WA has full encryptrion nowadays

Can anyone confirm this? I thought it was e2e but meta sill could read content since they had permission to monitor the app on the device including contents.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

How they would scan what I wrote on toilet paper with my ass ? My ass speaks secret alien language.