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[–] JSocial@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] _cnt0@unilem.org 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Yeah, what's that saying? Something like: "There's no hate quite like Christian love"

[–] 01011@monero.town 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Any religion that looks to spread is going to use "us vs them" hatred and eventually violence to get their message across.

[–] ruford1976@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago
[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Uh, is this a rhetorical question?

[–] DLSantini@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

I mean, we have them, and they are. Sooo....

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

cough conservatism cough

[–] Government_Worker666@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It should be allowed to exist. But we should still condemn actions taken by it's followers that have negative impacts on society

[–] ruford1976@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

but allowing hate to be preached increases hate.

so why would you allow it?

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because disallowing it would be worse. This has been a hot topic of debate for centuries. Check out the book On Liberty by John Stuart Mill.

[–] ruford1976@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

worked out (atleast practically) for nazism in germany though.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nazism used force and violence.

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

And Christianity never did?

[–] ruford1976@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

so lets say if this religion of hate uses and commands use of force and violence would you then consider banning it and it's practice?

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago

Who would determine which religions are hateful and which aren't? How would this be enforced?

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There is a religion of hate: American Protestant

[–] 01011@monero.town 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's far from the only one.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago

Oh, don’t get me wrong, I think all religions are ridiculous. These “Evangelicals” in particular are just the most outwardly hateful people lately.

[–] keropoktasen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In order to preserve tolerance, we must be intolerant to the intolerant. Give plaforms to the hateful religion, and the next thing they'll do is to play victim whenever they're being criticized for being intolerant.

[–] bramkaandorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

So no change from business as usual.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

We did just have an interesting experiment in free speech over the last few years, and it’s still not clear where it ends up.

In the US there’s a carveout where online providers are not liable for what their users say, as long as the platform is free and open. However as the current craziness started breaking out, they did start moderating more, preventing at least some false info and at least some calls to endanger public safety. However, are they still not liable, now that they actively participate in what is allowed on their systems? Where should the line be drawn between false and endangering vs free speech, in what people use social media for? When it was just the village idiot spewing hate and violence, we could mostly ignore them, but what about when they have global reach, connect with other village idiots, actually instigate violence?

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago

Depends on why people call it that, I suppose.