100% always Monica Lewinsky
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Amber Heard deserved all of it.
Meghan Markle did not deserve it as such, just… what did she think would happen?
I absolutely agree Meghan Markle didn't deserve it, especially the racist angle which is indefensible. If you see my comment above, there's more to the Amber's Heard story that wasn't reflected in the media narrative. And I can't think of a male abuser that's faced as much vitriol as her.
Considering I haven't heard calls for Amber to have her genitals chopped off, certainly none met with cheering... I can think of many male abusers who have faced as much vitriol as her. This sounds like heavy duty white knighting
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How do you know what Steve's gender is? Did you ask her?
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Oh look! Another man with an opinion so important it simply must be shared!
If it's too complicated to follow, maybe you can plug it into the LLMbecile "AI" of your choice to have it dumbed down to toddler levels for you.
And this is why men and women can't be friends.
Isn’t Meghan Markle a royal? That alone means she’s fit for guillotining.
She's weird. An American actress who married a prince, but the level of racist bullshit they've went through have pushed the both away from his family. She doesn't deserve the French treatment, but her in-laws shouldn't have their jobs
Don’t worry, there’s room for everyone.
When someone says there's room for everyone at the guillotine I have no doubt that they mean it, unfortunately I suspect they really do mean everyone
No, she's an actress who happened to fall in love with a royal.
Doubly so.
Amber is a questionable addition, other than that, yeah.
There's a lot of Amber's behaviour I really don't like and I really understand people believing him. It's worth looking at the UK judge's verdict from the UK trial, where an experienced judge tested the evidence and found he was abusive. There's also Ellen Barkin saying he drugged her for sex, him dating Winona when she was 17 and he was 26, his friendship with multiple abusers, see here, here, and here (warning: Ginsberg was a supporter of NAMBLA). Then of course Manson who here shared awful texts with and many, many other things that make me believe her. However Amber's behaviour was awful sometimes, she did a lot of attention seeking, and I really understand people disbelieving her.
At which point in this list of yours are Ambers Heard's abusive actions justified?
And if they're not, why are you defending a convicted abuser?
And if they're not, why are you defending a convicted abuser?
Law is not morality, courts are not really suited to deal with situations like this. They both needed help, not to fight and be convicted or whatever. It was an unhelpful show trial.
Restorative and transformative justice is what was needed so these clearly damaged people could heal.
The fact that she is also a victim doesn't make her not an abuser though.
Yes, they both needed help decades ago, but that doesn't excuse either of their abuse. He's an abuser, she's an abuser. Neither should be defended, and both need help.
But none of those things justify her abuse, and none of those things means anyone should defend her abuse.
Sure, but neither deserve hate either, it isn't useful or helpful. Sure, be wary. But hate doesn't do anything useful.
It is possible for two people to both be bad.
Yep exactly. And not every person in an abusive relationship is a nice person, especially when they've endured years of abuse
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My partner is following the Blake lively case and she is absolutely a toxic narcissist who deserves the hate she’s been getting. Going after small time content creators with less than 10 followers is pathetic.
Same with Amber Heard.
Did anyone but the royal family dislike Diana? She's aleays come off as pretty university beloved to the point that people sided with her over the fuckass prince who survived her
Yep she was adored, queen of hearts. She took some shit in the media though
Yeah the media was completely savage with her.
The UK paparazzi is a plague on the whole country, if you're remotely in the public eye, they will drag you through the mud completely without regard for reality or consequences.
Yep. I remember reading about the abuse paparazzi would shout at her so she'd react or at least and they'd get a photo. They were vile
We should all give Amber a break ffs!!
Stephenie Meyer.
Hear me out. Were the books well written? No. Did they describe very toxic and harmful relationship dynamics? Yes. Did they contain weird morals? Also yes.
These are all things that can be justly criticised. And there is probably a lot more to criticise. But did Stephanie Meyer, and to some extent her readers, really deserve the huge wave of hate they got? Were the books really objectively worse than other YA fiction? Or was it just because they were popular among young women?
I was a teenager when the books came out and loved them. (Though even then I did not understand why they needed to marry so young and she lost me with the whole Renesmee thing). Now I cringe hard about almost any aspect of them, but hate is going a bit overboard.
And at least Meyer (to my knowledge) didn't try to push her weird worldviews onto us outside of her book, unlike JKR.
I've heard very little hate for Stephanie but plenty for Twilight the series. Most of the general public that would be unjustly hating on her probably don't know her name, tbh. Maybe I'm just living in a fairy tale land? 🤷
Moreover, Meyer matured as an author. Her book The Chemist is a genuinely excellent genre-bending espionage romance thriller, which her fans hated because it wasn’t about vampire porn.
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I don’t know enough about most of them to have an opinion. At a certain level of fame, everything you do is going to be scrutinized and exaggerated into an attention-grabbing headline. Celebrities are still just people and hate is a strong word. Unless they’ve done something truly awful, I don’t have a reason to think of someone I’ve never met as anything beyond mildly annoying.
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