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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So this is like one or two steps removed from "sterilize people with ADHD lol." Kinda like RFK's super funny "work camp" idea.

Methamphetamine is literally still prescribed for ADHD under the name Desoxyn. Not as often as Adderall (mixed amphetamine salts), etc... but it is.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Put birth control in ivermectin

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago (18 children)

It's always lovely to be reminded that eugenics remains a popular idea so long as you don't call it that.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I get why you think that, but it does not say permanent.

If the birth control lasted 1-6 month to ensure active addicts would not have children, I would be kind of in favor of it. There is nothing good about a child being raised by meth addicts or taken by CPS and going through orphanages/foster care.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, this is a good idea for a big reason other than genes though, people who are currently addicted to meth shouldn't be having kids, not from a gene perspective but as an unfit parent and as an unsafe pregnancy standpoint.

While I agree with you, the problem is, that it opens the door for a lot of other forms of eugenics. Once we decided that Meth users shouldn't have kids we can quickly expand the definition of who is "allowed to have kids". People who take LSD? Those psychopaths. Stoners? Homeless people? Black people?

It gives a certain group of people power over one of the most intimate secsectors of someone's private life. No one can guarantee, that at some point we are not the ones being included in the definition of "unfit for parenting" simply because we have the wrong political views or something like that.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Looks like it’s time to reinvent the Torment Nexus from famed science fiction novel “Don’t Invent The Torment Nexus”. Maybe it will go well this time!

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 2 days ago

I mean we do take kids off crackheads. Repeatedly in some cases.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We already practice eugenics. Its a term that covers a lot of things. There's a line between good eugenics and bad eugenics. I'd say secretly bputting birth control in drugs to control population is bad eugenics.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

This isn't an ethnic group or permanent, though. I think the bigger ethical issue is that birth control can have dangerous side effects.

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[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They should put meth in birth control. It would make it easier to remember to take it on time and I could call them “mommy’s pep pills” and it would be charmingly ironic because I have no children because I’m good at taking my pills on time.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

my antidepressant is apparently really damn addictive, I forgot to take them for a week with no issues. Honestly I felt better. No idea why I didn't have any withdrawals 🤷‍♀️

I do imagine meth is slightly more impactful though

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Damn, beat me to it by 7 min.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

It’s because i’m brimming with pep.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And a dash of chilli powder. I'm currently watching Breaking Bad for the first time.

[–] SillyDude@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The episode where the kid named finger beats Walt Jr to death while Walter just sits in his cuck chair and jacks it is crazy

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[–] potato_wallrus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm for this, not because I think they have bad genes, but because meth heads tend to make shitty parents

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I... don't know that heated, aerosolized birth control of any kind would... be an effective delivery mechanism...

But uh, honestly, his heart's in the right place, a child born addicted to meth is an absolute tragedy, basically just completely fucked from Day 0.

Cutting meth with BC drugs is ... probably way, way, waaaay safer than all the idiots currently cutting it with fentanyl, carfentanyl, the even stronger shit where an actual speck of sand's worth csn be the difference between a high and a completely guaranteed OD.

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[–] s@piefed.world 13 points 2 days ago

Put both in the drinking water and also put a lime in a coconut

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago (6 children)

am i reading too much into a shitpost or is this essentially saying "sterilize drug users"

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I disagree with the eugenics involved here. but the real solution is free healthcare with accessible birth control.

[–] REDACTED 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the idea of eugenics is that someone controls who can re-produce. Using drugs is a personal choice, and there are already drugs that screws up your re-production system.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

it is eugenicsy if people in power arbitrarily decide that all drug (only those that poor people use) users shouldn't breed.

I do think that people in objectively shitty conditions should wait to get better before having children. but straight up sneaking birth control in their drugs? that's eugenics,.give poor people access to free healthcare? that's better.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Put birth control in uncut Colombian coke, too.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

instructions unclear, I put birth control on coca cola

Just as good

[–] REDACTED 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But the post does not say "sneakily". In fact, this could be a great anti-drug campaign, choose between having kids or drugs. Post also said meth, which makes me imply hard drugs only, not weed

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

If we are talking about hard drugs and teratogens then we should also add birth control to alcohol since it's a hard drug that causes birth defects.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

Absolutely is. Im guessing only temporarily though. Pretty sure you can just stop taking your birth control pills and start ovulating properly again.

Seems like a pretty good idea as long as it doesn't get slippery sloped. No babies while mething about.

[–] mang0@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

Abstracting "meth users" to "drug users" is hell of a leap.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: Put meth in birth control. Maybe people will use it more often. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

But isn't too much birth control bad for your health?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Birth control, like a USB thumb drive full with Asmongold videos?

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What happened to pedro pascal

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

it would be better to put it in church

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah... just give it dash of ULTRA STRONG DOSE VIAGRA (or equivalent to it)

I mean, meth is already a powerful aphrodisiac

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