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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 312 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (35 children)

Age verification is a great success I see. I feel so much safer now with this shit in place so kids can't watch porn...

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 128 points 1 week ago

...on major/regulated sites only.

[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 111 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The worst was watching porn on spotify...

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

It has absolutely nothing to do with kids watching porn.

Of course.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

*so that the government can say kids won't watch porn.

Rule 1 of computers that everyone who has taught an ICT class learns - if little Timmy wants titties, he finds a way.

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[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 178 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

ah from shady porn sites, like spotify and wikipedia. definitely protect kids from porn there. /s

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is wikipedia on the list? I see reddit is, lol. We might see an influx soon.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

not yet, but the wikimedia foundation has been fighting against it expecting that it would be a class 1 site and require it.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We have to protect wikipedia

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Here's one way to help: https://kiwix.org/en/about-us/#our-story

Download Wikipedia to your own device. If it's ever blocked or taken down you still have access and can help share information with others.

You can download different versions (e.g. without images) and different languages based on your needs.

There's other resources available via kiwix as well but I've not really explored them to be honest

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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 136 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let this be a reminder to never turn away from piracy. It needs to constantly be in the background and if any company gets like they always do, then it comes back out. But if we let the knowledge fade away then it's impossible to rebuild it.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Piracy preserves media.

Piracy preserves art.

Piracy makes sure, that future generations still have access to the creations of humanity.

Data hoarding is a service to the public.

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Or you know you could punish parents for not parenting. Like if kids are watching porn and caught and if it's actually against some law then go after the parents.

It's not hard to teach parents how to implement a filtering DNS. But no, countries think they need to be the nanny.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 121 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

"Protecting children" is just the pretext under which governments can sell increased surveillance. The fact that there are more effective ways they could act to protect children, yet governments everywhere continue to push for ID checks and monitoring online activity, shows that the aim isn't what they say it is.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 48 points 1 week ago

Don't forget trying to kill e2e encryption like what the EU wants to do, both to "catch criminals" and "protect the children"

https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-end-of-encryption-as-we-know-it

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Protect from what? I mean seriously. Most of us (guys at least) probably saw porn way before we were old enough and most of us probably didn't end up as rapists or pedophiles. It's not a good thing by any means, but it really feels like we're trying harder to keep sexual material from entering their brains than we are trying to keep them fed, clothed, educated, housed, healthy, loved, and physically safe. Of all the things I mentioned the last seven have a monumentally greater affect on their success and well-being as an adult.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's just the pretext they give to justify it. The real reason is surveillance. Now they have a way to confidently tie your accounts to your individual identity. And most of these solutions use third parties which will then sell that data as well, so now anyone can tie your account to you without you ever knowing.

Even if the government is barred from surveilling citizens in these ways, third parties aren't, and the government can just buy that information, no warrant needed anymore.

And these laws never stop at porn, it's drugs, LGBTQ information, etc. and they can always easily add additional things later with little fanfare.

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[–] ckmnstr@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago

Don't threaten, just do it. Enshittification must end.

The only reason we have mainstream paid video streaming now is because early Netflix was genuinely better than dodgy, pop-up riddled mirrors on movie4k.to. The convenience was well worth 8 bucks a month. Same for Spotify.

Fast forward 10 years and Spotify wants me to pay 15 €, scan my face and listen to forced podcast ads AND pay extra for paywalled audiobooks that used to be free? Meet my good old friend youtube-downloader, then.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 64 points 1 week ago (18 children)

I don't mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That's just creepy. Fuck off.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 60 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that's like saying Amazon fans really lol

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

Back to Piracy! ✊🏴‍☠️

Really though? It isn't necessary. Use Bandcamp, you probably have half your artists covered. The rest - one of those Spotify alternatives: Tidal? Qobuz?

Personally I do selfhost btw. Jellyfin, though I heard of a better alternative specifically for music recently - and forgot the name again 😥 Something lowercase, ~~like a verb... "normalize" or some such.~~ Navidrome! Thanks @0konomiyaki@aussie.zone

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[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Don't threaten, just do it!

I don't get why people are so stubborn to move away from corporate products.

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[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what are "spotify fans"? Spotify paid 150k $ for Trump's inauguration party, f them. They do not deserve my money

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[–] RedStrider@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (5 children)

what's even the point of age gating "explicit" music?

"oh no! "Speak To Me" by Pink Floyd has the fuck word in it! can't let my kids hear it!"

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If I am paying for my account personally, with a card in my name, what more do they need?

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 65 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They want to scan your face to get as many images of people of stated ages to feed into their facial recognition system. Do not for one moment think it is for anything else.

Edit: it is like how Facebook had a 10 years ago you looked like this! Post a new comparison photo today!' Specifically because they want to know how people age for their AI shit.

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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A VPN is a must if you wanna go down this route

Soulseek (and I recommend the Nicotine+ client over the official one) is a fantastic source for all music in all formats, and particularly obscure off-label shit you won't get anywhere else. You'll even have some success finding audiobooks there, although this is very hit-and-miss. I wish audiobook pirates would use it more heavily. It's P2P, like Napster used to be. You'll have to share something or you'll get auto-ignored by most users.

RuTracker is a great non-private/non-ratio-monitoring torrent site for music (does require a free account though). I've never had a single torrent from there that wasn't seemingly seeded by a Godzilla's dick. Obviously it's in Russian, but there's really no difficulty navigating around. The only thing you might struggle with is signing up for an account, but just have your favourite translation tool open in another tab 👍

If you don't mind slow download speeds (from the likes of RapidGator), I enjoy Exystence. It's a blog that shares link to the latest albums and offers both lossy and lossless versions. Nice RSS subscription to have.

If you do find yourself using RapidGator a lot, don't waste money buying a sub directly from them, it's insanely pricey. Instead, get a reseller like Real Debrid, which costs like 10% as much and also covers you for about two-dozen other file hosters. I highly recommend putting as much distance between your credit card and the company as possible, just for safety reasons. Using PaySafeCard is fine, as Real Debrid will never see your details in that case. I don't have any specific reason to be weary of them, I just don't trust random/small/hitherto unheard of companies as a rule.

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[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

tf is spotify "fans"? more like spotify "users"

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[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 45 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I mean, fuck Spotify and all that, but this one is really the UK government's doing.

And soon, this shit will come to every country. They're all drafting laws to mandate real age verification for adult content. The UK is just the first to implement it.

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[–] YellowDog@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Considering how much Spotify pays artists per listens, piracy is barely any different in that regard.

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[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (21 children)

I mean, the Spotify CEO invests in AI weaponry being used to murder kids in Gaza so the morally correct thing to do would be to leave Spotify over that.

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 35 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I jerked it to the Hanson mmbop video back in the nineties.

Found out later the girl was a boy.

You can judge all you want, but the general thing is that horny teenagers will jerk it to almost anything.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (6 children)

..........genuinely trying to figure out how this relates to the topic at hand.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The streaming services are run by shithead C-suites who think last quarter is the way it's always been. They forget the only reason most of us use their services is someone more visionary than them made it more convenient than piracy half a generation ago. Let's remind them there's an alternative.

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[–] Newsteinleo 30 points 1 week ago

Its as if law makers don't learn from history. Do they not know what happened in the 90s and early 2000s when stores wouldn't sell M rated video games or CDs with mature content labels? We found ways to get around that. We would go to stores that didn't check or care, got our older sibling or friend to buy it for us. We burned copies of our friends CDs, or downloaded stuff off line with Limewire and Napster.

Same shit when there was prohibition in the US. People drove cars across the great lakes to bring alcohol into the US. People brewed there own spirits in bathtubs with radiator coils.

If people want to anomalously watch their favorite weird kinky shit or listing to music they like, they're going to find a way. And, if the easiest way to do that is through piracy, that is what they are going to do.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE! YOU ARE A PIRATE!

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[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a load of bullshit, for a start the ISP has my details and should be able to attest my connection is rented by someone of legal age and it should be up to me what I let my children (assuming I have any) see and not see on that connection. I already had to click the "yes just give me the porn damn it" agreement on my mobile phone which was less likely to be randomly shared unmonitored and now this overbearing crap. I'll just avoid sites and services that require this.

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[–] bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

ngl, Spotify has become hot ass these days

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (5 children)

My favorite part is when the AI DJ plays some dumb song it's previously served up repeatedly, and then tells me how much I like it because I listen to it so often. I'd never choose to listen to it on my own, and the only reason I hear it is because Spotify keeps cramming it down my throat.

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[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Just do it.

Flac > Spotify.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Seriously, fuck Spotify and anyone else using that error-prone, intrusive, insecure bullshit.

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[–] caudatecoder@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (7 children)

as an independent artist I just wanna add: the best thing you can do to support artists and bands is to buy directly / on bandcamp. spotify pays shit to artists, you need millions of listeners to get any meaningful amount of cash

of course that isn’t a sustainable option if you listen to a lot of different music. so piracy is an option that I wouldn’t mind. hell, if you like my stuff and just write to me I’ll send you mp3s for free

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