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step one spread false info intentionally

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

This problem is hardly an issue on this platform.

And this is the problem.

I see objectively misleading, clickbait headlines and articles from bad (eg not recommended by Wikipedia) sources float to the top of Lemmy all the time.

I call them out, but it seems mods are uninterested in enforcing more strict information hygiene.

Step 1 is teaching journalism and social media hygiene as a dedicated class in school, or on social media… And, well, the US is kinda past that being possible :/.

There might be hope for the rest of the world.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Most of the misinformation I regularly find on top are statements made by the US president or his administration – and these are news reports in an appropriate context with appropriate commentary by Lemmy users. Occasionally, very rarely, I have also seen misinformation about the US president, but I don't see that as much of a problem.

Rather, I see it as a very serious problem that the US president himself and his administration are massively spreading misinformation. That is what my question refers to.

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've tried a lot and the problem is that the people are entrenched in their beliefs. They are in irrational states of mind on social media, and you can't rationally talk to people in that state of mind.

The most successful I've had is simply the Socratic method. Remain calm, simply ask open ended questions which are designed to just make them question their tightly held beliefs. Why are cities less safe, why do you feel this, etc. however even I find they will often just get angry at that even.

Ultimately, it's not social media which will win minds. It's in the open. I've had more luck meeting people casually in bars and talking to them vs on a keyboard

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, I believe that social media does influence people's decisions very much. If that weren't the case, criminals like Trump could never be elected president, and 20-25% of the people in my home country wouldn't vote for open Nazis.

Nevertheless, thank you for your valuable contribution: In addition to technical possibilities, I am also interested in how to deal with people who do not accept rational arguments - the Socratic method is probably the best way to make a point with them.

[–] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

To be the devil's advocate, people elected nazis around the apparition of tv, so i don't think social medias truly are a necessity for fascism to proliferate. That being said, they can still have a major impact.

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I look at any individual's history when they post anything sketchy and contextualize. Anything politically motivated is likely a shill unless they have a long broadly engaged post history across many subjects with depth. I block a lot of people too.

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[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It honestly just depends on how many steps you want. You're going to have to figure out the logistics of taking them, first of all. Do you want to take a premade set of steps or would you rather mold/cast them onsite?

Obviously concrete is heavy af, so if you are going to precast them, you might consider using less steps. The more steps you add, the heavier its going to be. Of course, this isn't an issue if you have a heavy duty vehicle with a lift.

Also, do you want rails on them? That will take extra time to set them in place.

Some examples i would recommend would be something like these.

Or maybe this

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

IMO, the typical approach of using fact-checking services to rate the accuracy of sources is inevitably flawed: if a source (or a fact checker) builds a reputation for reliability, it will eventually be suppressed or subverted into exploiting its reputation for other purposes.

A better option might be to treat all sources as potentially informative, but not at face value: rather, build a predictive model of each source, and treat as significant only those stories that deviate from prediction (i.e., stories that seem atypical for that source). Those are the stories most likely to convey information the source didn’t generate itself.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

That's certainly a good point, but I'm less concerned with how to verify information than with how to counteract the constant flow of misinformation — especially on other platforms where misinformation is deliberately pushed, which is causing major problems in my home country alone.

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