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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 198 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He added, “We want the same prices Europe gets, we want the same prices other country gets.”

Europeans pay very little for healthcare because they use a system designed to provide affordable healthcare and not to enrich the wealthy...

[–] henfredemars 90 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Here in the States, we call that system communism.

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fuck the EDF!

sorry Red Faction: Guerrilla has irrevocably changed my associations of certain phrases. Damn good game also my first PS3 game.

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"We want the benefits without the 'communism', please and thank you." -Capitalism-brained Americans

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a single entity that buys all the drugs and distributes it out where it's needed. It's called buying power and is very effective in negotiating a deal. They also allow generic drugs in most cases, so the patients and hospitals have options and are not held for ransom by big pharma.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"But if the "single entity" does not buy enough (because the government cut the budget), THEN PEOPLE DIE!" - something I vaguely remember from debates one time the US considered possibly offering something approaching centralized health care.

I don't know how the fuck it works. I assume the "single entity" just buys more and the government doesn't cut the budget?

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A real country informa a pharmaceutical what they will pay per dose for certain drugs, and if no company will agree then they will open their own labs to produce the drugs at cost. Free marker capitalism is incompatible with human decency

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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 121 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What a fucking joke of a country... It's absurdity beyond satire.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't want to live here anymore and I'm scared.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Prepare for the worst and get armed and know how to use your weapon.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There was a very very small window that America wasn't a joke, and it ended like 80 years ago.

People need to understand shit didn't break 5 seconds before they noticed or well never fix it.

trump just doesn't have the manners and vocab to hide how bad it is.

If we don't start thinking on a longer timeline, we're fucked

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The system is designed to keep the working class too busy and tired to think beyond tonight’s dinner, or maybe tomorrow’s.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's our economic system not our healthcare...

And it's a real thing, resource scarcity as a child changes the timeline you think on. You know how everyone laughed at the people doing the "chase glitch" which was just check/wire fraud and incredibly easy to prosecute?

They seemed stupid because obviously there was going to be consequences, but resource scarcity means tomorrow's problems aren't real problems yet.

If you don't know if you'll be alive in aweek, consequences in a month literally don't factor into your thinking. That's why Pay Day loans and credit cards are such big business.

It is completely normal, it's how our brains are wired, and for 99.999999999% of human existence it was a solid strategy.

But the wealthy exploit it.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Let's not pretend like these predatory businesses and schemes are naturally occurring either. There was a deliberate and concerted effort to create the conditions of scarcity and demand for these shitty short term solutions.

it was a solid strategy

For 99% of human history if someone deliberately tried to create conditions of poverty for the majority of a population they would be deposed by that population. We have been turned into livestock.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

Reconstruction held promise, until it was basically squashed by racists.

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[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Well they put a clown at the helm sooooooo......

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

if we were smarter we'd be rioting.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago

I guess I need to contact my pharmacy and find out where my check is for the drugs. According to Trump they owe me a lot of money.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Lol.

I grew up in the 90s. If someone had told me America was roughly 20 years out from letting a felon rapist pedophile roll over the U.S. while it just stood by and watched I simply would have dismissed it as absurd.

Such a comically pathetic nation.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

you forgot mentally unstable

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You grew up with clinton and Bush and didnt quite see a trend there?

In their defense I don't think most people knew what trends to look for since such skills are attached to historical literacy the long suffering child of the humanities. History ain't boring the way it's taught in elementary, middle, and highschool is shit, rather than focusing on the push and pull of history, society, culture, and economics they focus on ye olde facts that have the same general depth as one of my ancestor trade ledgers. There's a tale in said facts but it takes a good bit of skill to weave it back together.

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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 78 points 1 week ago (3 children)

MAGA supporters will believe him because they don’t understand percentages.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 week ago

3500% percent of them will believe him. The other 3% are rinos.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

They also like rapists, as long as that rapist wears red.

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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump cannot and will not lower drug prices. That's just another lie... Oh, how about the Eppstein files? He could certainly publish those, but he won't for obvious reasons – almost as obvious as the reasons for not lowering drug prices.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Well he certainly cannot lower them 1500%

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

You mean you’re NOT getting a fat check every time you pick up your prescription?

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But he certainly can raise prices by 1500% once this pedo thing is over — probably a Freudian slip — he will probably do everything humanly possible to increase prices by that percentage since the lobby offered him and his cronies good terms.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Oh, this ISN’T the onion.

This guy needs to be in a home, this is not healthy behaviour.

Edit: are they trying to say a 33% drop?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

There is no reason to waste time trying to make sense of the word vomit.

[–] AZX3RIC@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

My guess is someone told him the markup on drugs in the USA is 1,500% so he reversed the logic without understanding how percentages work.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it's true. I just went to get my son's inhaler, and the pharmacy paid me 14 times what I normally pay them for it. Thank you, Mr. President.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Fucking what? Am I going to receive a check for hundreds of dollars next time I pick up my Adderall?

He's so fucking stupid it makes my head hurt.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

You understand basic math and percentages. You're definitely not a Trump voter!

For them this is a huuuuuuge win 🫠

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Wait, doesn't this mean they have to pay us? If a drug used to cost $1000/year, the drug companies will now have to pay us $14,000/year to take it, right?

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You’re missing a zero. $14,000 in your pocket.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're right. I'm not used to dealing with such large sums of cash.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Get used to it. Trump is gonna give us all a 15x rebate on medications! 🙄

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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago

I thought this was an onion article. Then I realized it’s not…..

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 13 points 1 week ago

So now they pay people absurd amounts to take drugs?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

wtf does this even mean and how does he or any of his sycophants think this could possibly be implemented outside of a command economy?

Guess we’re getting a command economy, everyone. Hold on to your butts.

I’m sure they’ll blame the “socialists” and “communists” when it doesn’t work.

[–] zwerg@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, if you switch to a command economy, they'd be kind of right...

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[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

So you go to the pharmacy and they give you a pile of adderal and, like $2000? Way better than socialism.

If y’all thought you had an illegal immigrant problem before, lemme tell ya…

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

The full article on Forbes gives some terms more or less guaranteeing that companies will simply stop distributing in the US. Or raise global pricing to match US levels.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, MAGA followers can't do the math any better than trump himself. My thoughts .... two months from now drug prices went up, the difference flows to DJT and his inner circle while MAGA celebrate the new prices

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago
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