I thought "mayday" was outdated and "pan-pan" is used nowadays
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Mayday is immediate assistance required. Reserved for things that place the aircraft in jeopardy, like fire, engine failure, explosive decompression, etc.
Pan Pan is for less serious things like maybe a single system failure, a pressurization problem, things that are not time critical.
Gotcha. So both are declaring an emergency but with different urgency
The words are “attention getters”. They don’t by default declare an emergency. They basically tell people on the frequency to stfu and listen, especially ATC. As you can see in the transcribed statement by the pilot, s/he specifically declared an emergency.
Pan-pan is less serious
The plane, a Boeing 787
Because, you knew it was before you clicked.
To be fair, Boeing doesn't supply the engines
What does that matter. It's still their plane.
To be extra-fair, Boeing makes or supolies everything that touches, controls, fuels, etc... the engine.
Probably including the specifications after which the engines are built.
This actually tends to be fairly uneventful when it happens.
Source: was on a flight from CDG to BOS - we had just started over the English Channel when the pilot came on, mentioned we had mechanical difficulties, and turned around. Landing was fine - nothing to note, save for the crash trucks they had out as a standard procedure for whenever a plane has to divert due to mechanical issues.
By far the worst part of the whole situation was how the airport and airline personnel in the terminal handled the whole situation. Ended up having to take another day off of work because they couldn’t get their shit together and coordinate alternate options for passengers.
Any pilot nerds out there? Is this a normal situation to use “mayday” for? I know that plane can fly with one engine (though not sure if that’s the case during ascent at only 5000 ft), but it seems like ATC would give them priority as soon as they asked for it.
I sort of thought mayday was only for extremely dire circumstances.
Engine failure during take-off is one of the most extreme dire circumstance an aircraft can be in.
Flying with one engine is one thing, but climbing with only one will push the remaining engine to the absolute limit, so you want to get back down ASAP.
#stall
It’s not as bad as the news makes it sound but it’s not a great situation. With all the posts on mundane airline issues I’m thinking someone is out to give the industry a black eye. It’s still the safest form of travel.
It's statistically the safest.
But stats don't really matter when it's you on the plane and you go down and are almost guaranteed to die.
This sort of mechanical issue does happen, and isn't particularly new. This seems to be mechanical, and I'm more worried about what's happening with the air traffic controllers.
That said, it's still the safest form of travel until it isn't. There doesn't have to be that many plane accidents with all passengers lost before it overtakes the number two and three safest forms of travel (railroad and busses). The ATC situation could easily collapse quickly.
Agree with ATC being a much larger issue.
Good that it got catched that early
What do you mean caught early? It was an engine failure ... you tend to notice those immediately and it's not like there is much room to catch them later.
Catched?
It is more corredt to say "catcheded"
Pronounced "cachéed"