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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 147 points 1 week ago (80 children)

Let's cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we're too lazy to photoshop! What's not to like? More fossil fueled plagiarized bullshit so I don't have to think please!

Edit: Looks like I struck a nerve with some people who are, similarly to "AI", confidently incorrect about a few things. I'm not even saying LLM can't be used for good, it has, but I am saying that it is being used for a lot of bad shit and it's being powered by a lot of bad shit on top of that.

Think about that before you start hyping "AI" and attacking anyone who criticizes it because there's some valid criticisms that are very dangerous to ignore.

[–] Trincapinones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago (12 children)

"AI" is not just LLMs or diffusion models, and that's what I think OPs is about, like, do you also hate Stockfish? Or enemies in a videogame?

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

You're correct in a technical sense but incorrect in a social sense. In 2025, "AI" in the common vernacular means LLMs. You can huff and puff about it, and about how there are plenty of non-LLM AIs out there. But you might as well complain that people mean silicon-based Turing-complete machines when they refer to a "computer," even though technically a computer can mean many other things. You might as well be complaining about how a computer could refer to someone that does calculations by hand for a living. Or you could refer to something like Babbage's difference engine as a computer. There are many things that can technically fall under the category of "computer." But you know damn well what people are saying when they describe a computer. And hell, in common vernacular, a smart phone isn't even a "computer," even though it literally is just a computer. Words have both technical and vernacular meanings.

In 2025, in the language real speak in the real world, "AI" is a synonym for "LLM."

[–] Liz@midwest.social 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's really the crux of this stupid argument. Is a neural network that analyzes x-rays before handing them to a doctor AI? I would say no. At this point, AI means "over hyped LLM and other generalist models." But the person trying to judge others over AI would say yes.

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[–] kn33@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, some things are called AI that aren't. People are freaking out as soon as the term is mentioned without checking if it's actually some sort of model or if it's just a basic algorithm with a buzzword tossed on.

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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Let's cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we're too lazy to photoshop!

Decided to look into it, and a loose estimate (it's hard to find data on the power usage of photoshop) is that 1 minute of photoshop average is about 1 gen image at 4k output.

Which means depending on use case and experience, an AI spun up locally to make something quickly would use far less electricity

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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 78 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

ITT: exactly what the tweet was about. (Edit: It was a tumblr post.)

Y'all just saw "AI" and started frothing at the mouth about LLMs when, in the context of the tweet, it might just as well have referred to path finding AI in a video game.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

But tbf 'AI' in current public discourse and pop culture is (annoyingly) used synonymously with 'LLM' more often than not

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Exactly, it's downright comical how well OP called it.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Aren't you OP? Also, people currently understand "AI" (a marketing term) as "LLMs" and audiovisual producing software. Had you mentioned it in the late 90s, it would've been more about "The Matrix" kind of sci-fi AI, for instance, and before it would've referred to Cameron's Terminators or Herbert's "machine intelligence". Words and their context. You're being purposefully obtuse because people here wrote thoughtful comments disagreeing with the premise in the image you posted (and apparently agree with) and you don't like it as it makes you feel silly. That's all.

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

OP in this case would be the Tumblr user sexygaywizard who made the post in the image

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

Move over gamers, AI shills are the most discriminated group now!

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.

Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.

AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it's associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven't seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren't hurting anyone.

To use a bit of hyperbole, it's kinda like if you said:

Some of y'all see "white power" and freak out without processing anything that's being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.

Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works -4 points 6 days ago (4 children)

[…] Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody […]

This feels like a hasty generalization. For example, if one is experiencing gender dysphoria, we could assume that misgendering them with their undesired pronouns would cause them psychological distress ^[1]^ — ie harm.

References

  1. Type: Article. Title: "Gender dysphoria". Publisher: "Wikipedia". Published: 2025-08-05T16:25Z. Accessed: 2025-08-06T04:23Z. URI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria.
    • Type: Text. Location: ¶1.

      Gender dysphoria (GD) is the distress a person experiences due to inconsistency between their gender identity—their personal sense of their own gender—and their sex assigned at birth.

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[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, it’s totally okay starve millions of homes of water and jack up their utility bills to be able to summarize articles and write emails. (/s)

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me
Because you wrote your reply like a criticism, but the content seem to agree with what I wrote

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It has been my experience that things go the other way around. Usually people read the text (or programming script), see that it's nonsense and ask, "Is this fucking AI? Cause I really hope no one is actually this stupid."

And then they get annoyed that someone is cooking the planet using AI instead of their brain.

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I agree, they should be more like me and use their brain to cook the planet

edit: now that's what I call hot-headed

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Pretty insulting comparison, tbh.

Pronouns: Expanding language to communicate the humanity of other people.

AI: Distilling language to package human communication as a sellable product.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

One of the most insidious things that has happened over the past few decades is this overarching narrative that the left and right are equally evil and two sides of the same coin. That they are in any way comparable.

It has poisoned literally every aspect of life.

"The left went too far with 'woke', but that doesn't mean we need to go too far in the other direction!"

No. fuck that. Wanting basic human dignity for all people is not comparable to fascism. It's insane that this even needs to be said.

It's fucking baked into everything at this point. It is inescapable. I fucking hate it.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you want to take this one step further, it's the the inevitable result of identity politics in general.

Once you decide to generalize away per-issue stances just to paint them "left or right", "red or blue", "my team your team" then it becomes trivial to make an argument that both sides are the same, or conversely that both sides are polar opposites. Whatever suits you.

Republicans and Democrats both shovelled weapons to Israel. They are thus, as a whole, identical. Indistinguishable. Republicans are erasing reproductive Rights. Democrats are trying to guarantee them. They are thus, as a whole, complete polar opposites.

Generalizing from the specific is a convenient mechanism, but error prone, and it leads to absolute trash discourse... Which in turn leads to a failure of consensus for specific demands to make during a protest.

"No Kings" isn't realistically actionable.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I will stop freaking out when naive techbro men stop the ecological mass murder and environmental destruction that they supposedly NEED to do to sustain their shitty knockoff of a religion/cult.

Silicon valley is just a convoluted project to revive prey enlightenment Christianity, but stupider and more evil.

Everything they have peoduced since 2008, if not earlier, is part of this.

[–] s@piefed.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Branding something as “AI” just tells me that there probably wasn’t anybody critically examining the output to assess that it wasn’t 100% BS. If you’re using computer technology to scan bodies for possible early cancer symptoms, for example, then you should have a professional look over the computer’s results and you shouldn’t use the marketing terms that are used for churning out brainless media content.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

If I'm seeing the word "AI" outside of academic research or shitposting, it's almost certainly coming from a Techbro or techbro simp.

[–] RedStrider@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (6 children)

i saw someone on masto mad about the new background removal thing added to kdenlive

i despise llms and image models for quite a number of reasons but just aaaaaaaaaaaaa

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have no idea what point you’re trying to get across but I just got back from shopping for a laptop for my college kid and pretty much all of them had a slop button

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you are still looking https://frame.work/ I didn't see any ai slop button on these.

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[–] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am definetly guilty even tho i should start judging after knowing if its useful ai or gen ai

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I really don't think there is any useful generative or general AI.

So a lot of the issue is how marketing got their slimy tentacles around the word, but most "useful" AI is domain specific, symbolic ML (machine learning). Even LLMs have their uses in very specific domains, but again, general usage is very questionable.

People are already somewhat familiar with ML, but that's been kind of covered by the catch all term "algorithm". What most people understand as "the" algorithm (YouTube, Twitter, whatever) isn't a single algorithm, but a complex set of algorithms often at least partly compromised of some sort of ML.

All that to say, the general public really doesn't need to know this stuff and the serious engineers couldn't care less of our opinion of it. Fuck AI.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Exactly. I don't have problem with AI. I have problem with slop machines pretending to be AI.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Fuck ai and fuck ai simps.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The pronouns of LLMs are typically “useless/drivel”

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Outside of the privacy and environmental issues at this point AI isn't a fleshed out product yet it's being pushed into apps that don't need it. I think AI development needs to continue, and the public needs to use it and apply it in was it likely wasn't intended for but it needs to be opt in.

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Pretty sus how much pro-AI slop is suddenly on lemmy right as GPT5 is about to be launched.

Be less fucking obvious, you dipshits.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

amazing example of the person described in the post!

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[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

AI is like I dog shit on a sidewalk: I go out of my way to avoid it.

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