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I (24F) met a guy (37M) at a party half a year ago. He’s Japanese and I am an Indian living in Japan. We talked and exchanged socials but that was about it. After that we met in several other occasions, organized by mutual friends and a lot of times he invited me to various events too. I never really thought much about it because the age gap between us is insanely high.

A week ago he asked me if I am free and would like to go to a cafe with him. He didn’t say it was a date but i kinda think it was. This was our first opportunity to actually get to know more about each other’s personal life. I asked him about his job, he told me that he handles his parent’s real estate company and is quite rich. But he feels like his job is not very rewarding so he wants to go to abroad. I asked him if he is planning to get married so he said he feels it is still to early for him to get married. Then he asked me why i am not dating anybody yet. I told him i was too busy to date anyone but now that i have found a job, I will move to a new city and look for a suitable partner there. I am also planning to have a lot of children so I don’t want to delay it a lot. He said he also wants to have many children, but he didn’t seem bothered at all with his age being much higher than mine. Anyways, i think i made it pretty clear that i am only planning to look for a boyfriend in the city i am moving to, while he said he’s planning to stay closer to his family in this city and go abroad temporarily.

He still paid for everything that we ate and asked me out on a date again.

My question is, if he knows that I am leaving this city in two months and not planning to date anyone here, then is it safe to assume he asked me out again because he wants to sleep with me? I do not want to sleep with him, i am definitely physically attracted to him because he’s very handsome but i am a virgin and i want my first time to be with a long term partner atleast.

Is there any comfortable way to bring up this topic without making me sound like a narcissist who assumed a guy wants to sleep with her just because he asked her out🥲.

Please help me out

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty much everyone in this thread is being dumb. The solution to your problem is this: talk to him. Literally just pick up your phone right now and text him - "hey, when we went out for coffee, ummm... I feel awkward asking this, but, was that a date?" If he says no, apologise for assuming and continue enjoying his company as a friend. If he says yes, tell him you like him as a friend and appreciate his interest, but that you aren't interested because you are moving to a different city.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Even with this, is sex that taboo? Can women not want to have sex before they leave a city? Or at all? I'm not talking about random sex, but even if for two months they hang out and have sex once or twice, so what. They're adults.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

I completely agree with this in the abstract. But OP has made it clear that she is sexually conservative and doesn't want that, so I didn't offer it as an option.

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 42 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Is there any comfortable way to bring up this topic without making me sound like a narcissist who assumed a guy wants to sleep with her just because he asked her out🥲.

I'm less interested in knowing his motivation than I am in your motivation for saying yes and going out with him. Whatever is motivating you to go out with him, that is what you need to communicate, rather than just saying "I'm not going to sleep with you."

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[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As a happily married 39 year old I look at the modern dating scene with horror. I think that he probably doesn't "just" want to sleep with you, he probably just likes having someone like you in his life. People can be complex, we construct these binaries that simplify things, reality is more complicated. If you enjoy hanging out with a person, do that. Don't lead him on just to get to go on nice dates, and also be aware that he might be a pig that does just want to sleep with you. Maybe he mentioned going on trips to try to entice you into a relationship. Don't get into a position where you feel like you owe him anything.

The age difference is pretty big but there's a lot of loneliness in the world. So maybe talk to your mutual friends, does he have a history of chasing younger women?

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wanting to sleep with someone doesn’t make them a pig. Insisting on it does.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's weird how quickly lemmy shifts from communist revolutionaries to tradwives as soon as casual sex is brought up.

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[–] arumi@endlesstalk.org 17 points 1 week ago

Thank you very much! He never asked me to go on a trip with him and honestly I would say no if he did. He offered to pay but I offered to split the bill. When he refused, I bought dessert for both of us, I hope that made it atleast subtle that I am not trying to use him for his money, in any way

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At what point can you possibly have come up with "He just wants to sleep with me"? You two went to a café, shared your current life situations and plans for the future, and left amicably. Unless youre leaving a LOT out about what he said, that is a baseless assumption.

[–] arumi@endlesstalk.org 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He's paying for every date even when I offer to split. I even mentioned I am not looking for dating in my current city because I am moving, but he still asked me out on another and also asked about the places I would like to go, he would take me.

If he's not looking for a romantic partner, which I mentioned in the post he's not. Why would he bother doing all this? Just for a friend?

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 23 points 1 week ago (7 children)

he told me that he handles his parent’s real estate company and is quite rich

He's paying for every date even when I offer to split

Maybe he just doesn't want you to worry about where you go/what you order/how often you can meet him for financial reasons. I mean it's possible that he wouldn't say no if it came to it. Nothing wrong with that per se. But from what you said I don't think it's all he cares about.

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[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He said he's pretty well off. If he's in a different financial situation than you he may be cognizant of that. Also, not that I need to tell you if you live there, but customs in Japan are all kinds of weird. That could be related too.

[–] arumi@endlesstalk.org 5 points 1 week ago

I understand

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[–] naught101@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Seems possible.

But the answer might be highly culturally dependent, and also contingent on a tonne of extra context, so you're probably not going to get a reliable answer from the internet.

You could try asking him his intentions directly. Or telling him that you're not interested.

[–] angelmountain@feddit.nl 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Might sound like a crazy take, but if you just make sure you (only) do what you want and are clear about your intentions towards him, you should be fine.

If you want to have a drink from some casual company until you leave - do that.

If you want some steamy sexy time for one night and then leave - again, do that.

If you really like the guy and might actually consider some sort of longer relationship - guess what, do that.

Just be clear and honest, towards him and yourself. That way he can decide what he wants from you.

And as all engineers know: assumption is the mother of all f*ck-ups, so avoid those at all cost.

[–] arumi@endlesstalk.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I totally understand your point!! But in the past, it has happened quite often with my Japanese friends that they assumed I am giving them hint that I want to sleep with them, only because I gave them a goodbye hug. All of these guys were closer to my age. But I do that to all of my friends from every nationality regardless of gender. I stopped doing that with any japanese friends tho, including this guy, I just shaked his hand and said goodbye.

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 13 points 1 week ago

I think it's impossible to assume anything at all. With cultural, age and gender differences, it's difficult to figure out what the intentions of another person are, unless they state them clearly. Neither you or he did that.

As a guy, I can assure you that guys do not understand subtle hints or can even logically deduce where this casual acquaintance is going from what you have already described.

You'll need to be very clear. Maybe then he will also tell or show you his own intentions more clearly.

But first you need to know yourself what you actually want to hang out with this guy for and if it's worthwhile maintaining the friendship for whatever reason. It makes sense if you have mutual interests or benefits from keeping in touch. However, my best guess based on your description of him offering a back massage is that he might have more romantic intentions than you. In that case it's best for both of you to be brutally clear and end his hopes instead of "friend-zoning" him. It might feel unpleasant, but it's crucial to be clear. If he reacts negatively, well, there's your answer.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

13 years is a significant age gap for someone in their mid twenties.

I am certain he wants to have sex with you, wether or not he is thinking about a long term relationship, I have no insights.

It could be that he is not thinking about that. You are pretty vague on when you are relocating, so maybe he thinks that if the two of you work out, than you will stay.

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[–] postman@literature.cafe 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe I missed something but nowhere in this discussion do you mention whether you want to sleep with him? Even when people sort of prompted you.

If you fancy him, take it to the next level. I imagine he's keeping it light for plausible deniability in case nothing happens or he gets rejected.

Either make a move or tell him you're not interested in a relationship. Figure out your own intentions instead of trying to mindread him.

[–] arumi@endlesstalk.org 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have clearly mentioned in the post that I don't want to sleep with him, I am a virgin and want to save my first time for a long term relationship

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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

This can't be judged well from afar imo.

My wife and i also got together two months before she was supposed to move to a different city. If people genuinely love each other, commuting and making things work is possible and people have done it before. In the case of my wife the different city didn't work out after all. When we got together it started with us trying to talk ourselves out of it, because of all the reasons why it should not work. Now we are going strong since more than 5 years.

Life reality doesn't work in terms of "now i will date and now i will find a suitable partner" or "now is not the time". People who limit or push themselves like this end up sabotaging themselves imo.

You will have to trust your guts on this. It is set that you will move. If he is serious, he will find a solution for this. If he is that rich and he is unhappy where he lives now, there is no reason why he shouldn't be able to make it work that you life in a different city. If he doesn't, then it isn't meant to be.

The age difference is an issue though in the sense that his life experience makes it easier for him to control situations and make promises not to hold up, than the other way round. This does not mean that it has to be the case. You should see to judge him by his actions, not by words.

[–] GreyShuck@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago

I am not familiar with either culture, but I'd guess that he does.

and asked me out on a date again

Was this specifically described as a date? If so, I'd suggest that this is the way in to politely raise this. In fact even if it was ambiguous, it still is the way to do it: "Just so that we are both clear, although I enjoyed meeting you the other night, I don't want to take things any further than these casual meetings." or similar. I'm assuming that you did enjoy it - or you wouldn't be considering another one.

You could restate that you will soon be moving (people can be incredibly selective about what they take in and what they don't) if you want to - although you shouldn't need to give a reason if you don't want to.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah pretty safe assumption

[–] Eideen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

yes.

He is probably just shy, him self on how to bring up this topic.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Feels like there are tons of cultural differences involved. Maybe you are not aware of them?

Cultural differences are usually not changeable. I mean, you cannot change all people at once, obviously. Most times you cannot even change that one special person.

You can only be open to accept that one specific person as they are. And you need to talk about these things more, and much more explicitly, than about some other general topics.

Don't know if this is helpful, but I must admit that I don't know the Indian or Japanese cultures enough to really answer your questions.

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm not certain you provided any signs that he viewed it as a date or even that he liked you. I'm not sure you characterized any motivation on his part that made me think he was into you, except for that part of your conversation was around marriage and it read like you brought that up not him which I guess would be a signal that material was on their mind (but that's irrelevant if you brought it up I'd say).

I generally assume all men want to sleep with all women regardless of any other concept or notion, simply because sex is fun and men in my experience seem on average far more willing to do that with just about anyone. That's not really true, and it's not really a fair assumption, but I don't think it causes harm if you don't act irrationally on it.

It sounds like he:

  • likes talking to you because he invited you on two outings (both of which you assumed were dates)
  • is rich and therefore when he pays for the food it lessens the implication that it's a date (although I think that's fair to keep in mind. To provide a counter example, I pay for friends meals semi-frequently and have always paid for every 1v1 meal with a woman (and most of the men 1v1s among peers or younger) as a thank you for the company. This is not attached to romantic or sexual expectations or desires, it's just how I was raised and have decided to maintain that practice because I like it).
  • is attractive (by your own admission)

I'm not certain I can gleam any more information about him out of your text.

Did he only want to talk to you about relationships and physicality? Was he physically distant or was he escalating touches? Did you catch him giving you signals like checking you out or anything else that might point to a purely carnal thinking?

Otherwise I'd say right now, it's safe to assume he wants to have sex with you. It's also probably unfair to assume that's all he wants and doubly unfair to assume that that's his motive for hanging out with you.

I believe men and women can have platonic relationships, which I think based on some comments you made in this thread you also believe.

So I'd recommend a couple possibilities:

  • Your gut says he just wants to sleep with you, it's heavy on your mind, or you just like being very communicative. In this case, communicate clearly and honestly something like "hey, just to get this off my chest I'm enjoying our conversations and 1v1s but as I explain to all men early on, I'm not interested in dating or anything physical right now. If that's why you wanted to hangout, I understand and you've done nothing wrong, but that's not why I was enjoying hanging out. If that's not what you were looking for, and you're okay with just being platonic friends, I can't wait for our 1v1."
  • If you don't think he was actually pursuing you, you feel like he was pretty normal hanging out with you, or you just don't want to broach this subject until you're certain you both have misaligned intentions I'd recommend continuing as normal, and mentally defining your boundaries while preparing to communicate them when you need to. This would look like (as a random kinda silly example) "he grabs your shoulder once while telling a story or something", maybe no big deal for you and you move along, "he grabs your shoulder constantly and it's now abnormal behavior", you tell him you don't like this and ask them to stop and then clarify your intentions with him (probably after that event/gathering).

Please know this is coming from a man's perspective and it's as brief as I could make it. Please consider the normal woman wisdom (even if it sucks that it's required) that you should focus on your immediate physical safety first and emotional/mental safety next at all times. If you get the feeling that clear communication would put you in danger, don't do it until you're safe.

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