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Yeah, but the bullshit spewing con artist they voted for said other countries pay the tariffs!
“Why is equipment going up we should be charging finished products”, dumbfuck what do you think went into that equipment?
I had to break the poor news to my boomers too. They wanted Japanese made computers, not Chinese, and I was forced to wake them up.
This video was so eye-opening and I really applaud Dustin for presenting it so thoughtfully and in a way I hope everyone can appreciate, regardless of their political stance.
Dipshit conservatives voted for Americans to have an additional tax after spending their entire lives whining about taxes because a felon rapist pedo promised them other people in other parts of the world would be paying it instead of them.
Add it on to the pile of evidence that American conservatives are some of the dumbest humans to ever walk the face of this earth.
Honestly it's fucking insane that Republicans managed to convince voters that a regressive consumption tax is a better idea than just asking rich people to just send Uncle Sam an additional boat payment every year.
NuhUHHH he also promised to hurt The Right People™ and export them back to their home countries! Something that's totally condoned by international law, and they'll totally pay for that too!
Surprise, the US is part of a complex global economy and can’t survive or compete on its own.
The guy from SmarterEveryDay is making an American made bbq scrubber. And he tried to source everything from American companies only to find out the parts were only designed in the US but manufactured abroad. He basically had to make every part himself to be sure it’s completely made in America.
Nike won't build a plant in the U.S. and pay U.S. citizens $25/hour to make shoes.
Even with shipping and a multi-100% import tariff it would still be cheaper to make all that shit in Vietnam.
Not that the retail cost of Nike shoes is linked to the cost of production anyway. You've always been paying the premium for the logo.
Normally you'd start with a very small tariff and increase that on a regular schedule over a few years so businesses in the whole supply chain can anticipate and adjust in a reasonable stable environment.
It's the opposite of declaring liberation day and chickening out repeatedly. Of course, doing the opposite of good policy also has the opposite result. Businesses are leaving USA. It's easier to produce in another country in a stable environment and import the final product, and pay tariffs on it, only once.
That last bit is what people don't understand.
If you're an auto manufacturer, and you are given the choice to pay 50%+ tarrifs on your raw materials before selling your car that now has to be much, much more expensive due to the tarrifs. Or you could build the car in Europe, pay none of those tarrifs on parts, and export it to the US where the buyers will pay a 15% tarrif after the recent deal with the EU.
So it's more profitable for the manufacturers and cheaper for the consumers to shut down US auto plants and move everything to Europe.
Art of the Deal.
....but, they'd never eat MY face!!!...
Why does it continue to be a surprise?
People talk about it being "difficult" to determine what's real and what's not on the internet... But more and more, it's become clear, that these people just purposely close themself off to reality completely. The real world does not penetrate unless something affects them directly. And even then, they will do everything they can to avoid facing the reality unless it's literally a brown person's fault.
Most of the population in the US is about to recieve an object lesson in the global nature of modern manufacturing.
This goes well beyond where the raw materials for the final product are sourced from.
Machine components such as bearings. PPE and the polymer feedstock for ear plugs. Wire. The insulation for the wire. Semiconductors. Cutting tools. Etc.
There probably are domestic sources for a lot of these things, but that comes at a premium.
During COVID, I was biting my nails. I still wonder how close we came to global manufacturing collapse due to JIT failure.
If manufacturing collapses in the US, it will take decades to dig out of that hole. It could be something small like the lack of a plasticizer addtive. For the want of a nail and all that.
What's really scary, is that whether or not the tariffs go through, suppliers have already drastically reduced imports. They did it months ago when this bullshit started. It's just now starting to have an impact and will do so for months even if TACO bactracks today.
Commander Orangey McFucknutts may potentially crash manufacturing and the economy with it. It could be a Humpty Dumpty. I don't think most people understand how bad that would be. Starvation, widespread foreclosures and reposessions. Great Depression level stuff, but most of us aren't farmers anymore.
I wonder if this is why Epstein has suddenly, finally, become such a big deal. (Think about it, now it's news even though the facts being reported have been public knowledge for a decade.) It's the billionaire class warning him to knock this shit off.
Buckle up, it might get a little rough.
"It’s the billionaire class warning him to knock this shit off." I'm pretty sure the oligarchs threw their weight behind the fascist in the end was in hope of getting a 2007 style crash where they could buy up what little they do not already own for pennies on the dollar.
The fascist destroying worker rights (hell, anyone but CIS Het white men's rights) and setting up an army with no oversight was just gravy for them all.
Lotta people didn't take high school economics apparently
What economics class did you get? All I got was a bunch of pro-capitalist propoganda without any serious examination of economic theory.
I did last year, the teacher was a MAGA supporter and tought nothing about tariffs.
Brexit was just the rehearsal for what the US is doing to itself
This is the point! They are crashing the economy on purpose to force an asset bubble onto China and the EU(Germany).
People keep saying we don't make things here so we can't support our own needs of consumption, but that's part of it. Technofeudalism is a goofy concept but it seems like the ruling class is all in on it. Whether its "possible" is dependent on how many people you are okay letting starve, and specifically who those people are. Crashing the economy, recessions is generally a good thing for the ruling class so they don't really care. And Trump gets to be king or some shit, as long as he does what is needed to maintain the rate of profit, which gutting social services and forcing people into unemployment, driving down wages, will certainly do.
Small business owners are some of the most ideologically backwards segment of our population despite being a major source of employment for the working class. They are constantly pressured by the conditions created by the "big fish," and like so many people in the middle class, are constantly in fear of losing their class position, their privilege, their standard of living.
Yoda actually gives a really good spiritual analysis of this: anger leads to fear, fear leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. If you replace his abstract concepts with concretions, and think of it in a class conscious way, the anger comes from the pressures people feel, the fear is the fear of their own and their families well being, the hate is the baggage of nationalism and class war such as racism, queerphobia, whatever scapegoat seems convincing enough to believe, and the suffering is what follows: lynching, war, unrest, starvation, apathy and alienation. The racism and queer phobia piece works really well, because it is the conclusion that we draw from basically everything that we incorrectly learned about how our system functions. If you hold strong to that logic, which small business owners follow in order to achieve profits and establish their quality of life, then racism, queer phobia, ableism, misogyny, etc are natural conclusions.
Wrt Yoda I've actually read lots of actual history and theory, I'm not trying to be ridiculous. But it keeps coming around in my mind, and its something that a lot of people are familiar with. I could recommend better books and shit, but this is just a post on Lemmy, lmk if you want recommendations though
I wish I could laugh react on this.
Isn't steel under heavy tariffs like forever?
Trump even got into a trade war with the EU over it back in his first term.
and CHINA, dont forget about the soybeans, that never recovered either.
well get to work, and make your own knives.
There is plenty of info on the net on how to make steel from dirt and rocks.
It's been done for a few thousands of years with what are essentially diy tools from scratch.
Actually not a bad skill to acquire for the coming societal collapse.
Josh Smith, of Montana, is a fucking moron who doesn't understand economics.
Fucking hell, imagine being a "business owner" and not knowing where your supplies are comming from and what factors into the price. They're not sending their best, that's for sure
Step 1: Rename Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America
Steps 2 through A Lot: Repeat step 1, renaming everything else America
Step ??: Now everything is "American" made, problem solved
Not surprising at all. These people voted for him. They're DUMB!
I have a hard time believing this. He really didn’t know where his suppliers were?
I have a hard time believing he never contacted them or had to return something.
His supplier is probably an American company, he never bothered to ask where his supplier gets materials....
Yeah. A lot of people think that giving money to an American-based supplier means that the supplies are sourced in the US.