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Just got schooled by an AI.

According to Wiktionary:

(UK) IPA(key): /ˈstɹɔːb(ə)ɹi/
(US) IPA(key): /ˈstɹɔˌbɛɹi/

...there are indeed only two /ɹ/ in strawberry.

So much for dissing on AIs for not being able to count.

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[–] LukeZaz@beehaw.org 4 points 8 hours ago

I shudder to think how much electricity got wasted so you could get fooled by an LLM into believing nonsense. Let alone the equally-unnecessary followup questions.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah there is a stupid human in this chat but mostly cause they let themselves get tricked by bad logic in order to justify a bad answer.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 8 hours ago

Yes, this is the saddest thing about this, that people trust these bullshitting chatbots so much that they doubt their own knowledge.

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I asked it how many X’s there are in the word Bordeaux it told me there are none.

I asked it how many times X is pronounced in Bordeaux it told me the x in Bordeaux isn’t pronounced with the word ending in an “o” sound.

I asked it how many “o” there are in Bordeaux it told me there are no o in Bordeaux.

So, is it counting the sounds made in the word? Or is it counting the letters? Or is it doing none of the above and just giving a probabilistic output based on an existing corpus of language, without any thought or concepts.

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 4 points 12 hours ago

Also ignoring the fact it said one r was in the middle of the word

[–] zonnewin@feddit.nl 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

A normal human would understand that the question is about the spelling, not the pronunciation.

AI still has a lot to learn.

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 6 points 13 hours ago

It also is just making up a string of words that are probabilistically plausible as a continuation of the dialog.

You can do the same tests with other words and it will just contradict it’s self and get things wrong about how many times a letter is pronounced in a word.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don't use IPA for counting the number of letters in words. That would be stupid, and even linguists would laugh at you.

It's still a stupid AI, and it was confidently, and unambiguously, wrong.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 11 points 1 day ago

I use IPAs to forget about work crap. (Former linguistics major; I know the other meaning, but it doesn't come up much at bars.)

[–] 01189998819991197253 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Did you ask how many /ɹ/ there are, or how many r there are? It can't count, then it went and tried to justify its moronic behavior, and manipulated you into believing its "logic".

[–] spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

So much for dissing on AIs for not being able to count.

no, I'm still going to do that.

[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is nonsense, you cannot justify this type of errors from a language model. It's just a bunch of words strung together based on probability. This is just an artifact of such a construction, it's all right, don't break your brain on it. The "AI" sure isn't.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just AI being good at math again

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 10 hours ago

I love that its wrong/right the whole first response (everyone knows A comes first in PEMDAS right?) and corrects itself even more out of touch with reality because thats what the developers told it would appease the users.
Say the user is correct and try an even worse answer.

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 3 points 18 hours ago

Well, at least I’m not worried about my job. Not even a little.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 19 hours ago

You know if the letter was L and the language spanish it'd almost be right...

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wrong maths, you say?

Anyway. You didn't ask the number of times the phoneme /ɹ/ appears in the spoken word, so by context you're talking about the written word, and the letter ⟨r⟩. And the bot interpreted it as such, note it answers

here, let me show you: s-t-r-a-w-b-e-r-r-y

instead of specifying the phonemes.

By the way, all explanation past the «are you counting the "rr" as a single r?» is babble.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh wow, I didn't think about how many r sounds. But then if you ask it how many ks are in knight, it should say none.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I continued the conversation, then asked it about knight:

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 4 points 1 day ago

Oh, for fuck's sake ... another land war in Asia?

[–] kbal@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

It just goes to show that the AI is not yet superhuman. If it were really smart it would know, as humans can tell at a glance, that there are four r's in strawberry. There's the first one, the two in the double r combination, and then the rr digram itself which counts as a fourth r.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Kinda remind me of 13yo me, so why not both?