The fact that they have to do this just proves that they are immensely unpopular right now even among independents and republicans. What some see as hopelessness I see as opportunity. If they have to cheat this badly and blatantly that means that they realize that the masses are pissed at them. They project that they are popular and that this is the will of the people on purpose while they know the truth.
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I have heard how unpopular republicans are since Bush. They keep winning, whether by cheating or stupid people or both.
They are destroying this country and Dems are just like ok.
They realized this decades ago! The entire conservative strategy has been to stack the deck because their policies are objectively garbage used to justify the transfer of wealth in our society.
When you remove people's official political agency, they turn to non-offcial political action. And by that I mean violence.
Have these people never picked up a history book or do they somehow think their situation is special?
do they somehow think their situation is special
American exceptionalism? Is this that?
Ngl, they should have been matching the undemocratic representation shit the repubs do a long time ago in order for there to be legislation put up to stop BOTH sides from doing it.
Look at where taking the high road got us.
Defeat our enemy by becoming them? How will that be a win?
...in order for there to be legislation put up to stop BOTH sides from doing it.
Look at where taking the high road got us.
Absolutely. Fuck the high road. If the system is rigged why should you play by the rules? I'm not saying that things like gerrymandering are a good thing when Democrats use it, because it isn't and should be banned, I'm just saying that if they are going to rig the system you might as well use it against them. But from what I've learned the easiest way to ban something like this is to use it against the people that take advantage of it.
2nd amendment should apply to tyrannical shit like this. Literally manipulating the will of the people.
It's basically election fraud. The fact they're doing it beforehand using statistics doesn't change the seriousness of the crime.
If you're willing to do this, you're already willing to steal elections.
Yeah. It's just that no one wants to do anything. This is how fascism takes hold. Id be fascinated, but am also terrified at the implications.
The only time 2A ever applies to anything is if you have the force level to make it apply.
All it takes is one guy to make a big impact. Luigi woke some people up. The next one will too.
I expect the DNC to refuse to respond in kind, which is categorically insane under these circumstances.
The actual power to respond is in state government. It's looking like California is likely to, and perhaps other states too.
I hope CA does it, and I hope Newsom’s dipshit centrist strategy doesn’t get him to ultimately veto it
There is a strong argument to be made that if Dems successfully restructure CA districts to make up for the TX seats, then it will start setting a slippery precedent for how states are to respond to federal government organization, basically throwing the three branches of government out the window. When states just start setting their own number of seats it removes the will of the people and now we're just playing congressional flash-mob and federal legislation and budgeting dies, to be replaced by who-knows-what, and it's very likely there are GOP strategists who are counting on this because they already have an alternative planned. ("Congress is over, we now are going to use Grokgress! Powered by X, the Everything App!")
That is why this entire standoff is very, very worrying. When this kind of fighting starts, we are truly seeing an end to democratic process and the "united" part of the United States.
On the other hand, there is an even stronger argument to be made that the game is already over, that we lost democracy already and there are mountains of evidence to back it up, well beyond the stupid Trump spectacle that is distracting everyone. The Republican party has been working tirelessly to strip states of their rights and have successfully sabotaged the judicial branch of government as well as the executive. They are actively working on ways to dismantle the legislative branch but it's harder. Dems are in the position to either let them do this, or pull the plug on their own terms.
I have no idea which way it will go or what the after-effects will be, but it's starting to look like it's over. The system is running on inertia but in a decade or less we may see a proper dissolution of the states and the implementation of some kind of corporate feudalism kleptocracy and various blocs of states like Cascadia forming their own micro-unions.
The system is running on inertia but in a decade or less we may see a proper dissolution of the states and the implementation of some kind of corporate feudalism kleptocracy and various blocs of states like Cascadia forming their own micro-unions.
Good. People fear this outcome, but I would welcome it. It would allow for greater representation and actually allow the West Coast to join the 21st century. We could keep more of our money, complete interstate high-speed rail, set energy policy, etc.
Right now we're a married couple living in one house, and one partner is abusive, controlling, and insane. The right answer is not "figure out how to make it work." And yes, I know factions don't live cleanly according to state lines, but it's close enough now and only getting more voluntarily segregated as time moves on.
I agree, if we built a new coalition of allied, prosperous states with their own constitution towards fairness and equality without fear of federal interference it would be a huge benefit to the people who live there.
The part that makes this outcome less than ideal is that the former US federal system will still have control of the world's most powerful military, and I don't really expect that particular faction to want peaceful and amicable relationships with their neighbors. We're going to just see a replay of the Russia/Ukraine situation where unhinged tyrants prosper on starting endless wars with former members of their union.
Blue States have the advantage of having an economy
And more population in aggregate, so the House isn’t so intractable a problem as the DNC would have you believe. All they need to do is pull their heads out of their asses and reach into their purses to find the balls to meaningfully stand up to the fascistic encroachment we are living through.
The senate is where the real problem lies, as it was expressly designed from the get-go to favor landowners and is fundamentally (small d) anti-democratic.
Corporations aren't centralized, they just need de-regulated property to set up operations on. There's a reason Muskrat moved to Texas, and it's nothing to do with "wokeness." They don't care if the landscape around them is shanty-towns and hovels of desperate peasants, and that's also exactly what they want. They have enough money to keep their organizations flourishing and their shareholders wealthy enough to own bunkers and mansions on every continent. Blue states will still buy Amazon orders, blue states will still ask Grok if "this is true."
Pity 30 democrats in their legislature just took off to Illinois so they won't have quorum when they reconvene tomorrow to vote on it.
Like rules have ever stopped these pricks before.
If you fear losing seats due to being a bunch of assholes, trying to cheat your way out isn't making you less of an asshole. Maybe... I don't know, make politics for the people, you vile sack of puss?