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I've wanted to get this off my chest for a while now. I've had this on my notes for a few days now and I've now got the courage to share it.

It was three years ago now when my daughter who was 19 at the time was arrested.

At first none of us knew why she was arrested but then after a few days the charges became public. We found out she was charged with CP. As you can imagine all of us were shocked to say the least. Our daughter is the most kindest and caring person you could get. We couldn't imagine her being capable of doing something this horrific. It wasn't in her nature.

At first we thought there was a misunderstanding and the charges must have been trumped up. None of us thought for a minute that she could be guilty of these crimes. We had her back from the moment she was arrested and we were all convinced she was innocent even though none of us had heard her side of the story.

In the weeks leading up to the trial we spoke to her a handful of times via the phone and through visits. We told her we would get the best lawyer money could buy and we would help her clear her name but anytime we tried to talk about the charges or the trial she would change the subject. It was very infuriating but in hindsight I know this was because she was planning to plead guilty.

I still remember when she only used a court appointed attorney and pleaded guilty. We were all shocked. All we could think was why she would plead guilty and not try to fight the charges like an innocent person would. Was she doing it to get a shorter sentence? Could she actually be guilty guilty? There has to be a misunderstanding here. I remember being there in person with my son during the trial. We had never been so shocked in our lives. It was like a punch to the stomach.

The trial was short as she pleaded guilty but to us it went on forever. The judge told us the details of what was found and they were horrific. Apparently, she had lewd pictures both real and drawn of little girls being abused. Some were as young as three or four. She ended up getting about a year in jail and was given a SOPO (Sexual Offences Prevention Order) and made to register as a SO for 10 years.

I tried asking her in prison why she pleaded guilty but none of us have received an answer.

It was so embarrassing for all of us. Her name and face were all over the papers and the Internet and we all have to live life being known as the family whose sister/daughter is a convicted "nonce"/"wrong'un".

All of us were in shock. At first some of us were in denial about her guilt but over time we came to terms with the fact that our daughter/sister was a SO but some of my family are still in denial. For those of us who had come to terms with the truth the only question remaining was why? Why would she have those photos? Did she get them by accident or something? This isn't the type of thing you can imagine someone you know doing/getting in trouble for. This is something that only happens to strangers you read about on the news. I hated the thought of my daughter being one of them. I know she's done bad things but the thought of her being in prison still breaks my heart.

She was released last Spring and now lives with me. She pretty much has no future and has destroyed her life. I let her live rent free as she's pretty much unemployable and has no chance of getting a secondary education unless she moves back to Spain but even then her convection is going to follow her like a shadow.

I still love my daughter as any mother would but I see her in a completely different light now. She still spends a lot of time on the internet and I can't help but worry about what she's doing there. I just don't want her to get in trouble again.

She has goodness in her but she needs the right help and the guidance to rise above all of this. I know she's got problems but I see the best in her. She isn't a cruel person and she loves people, especially children. I know she didn't do any of this for sadistic reasons.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

She isn't a cruel person and she loves people, especially children.

This has got to be satire. You did not just genuinely end your post about your daughter getting charged with possession CSAM with saying she loves children.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 14 points 2 days ago

It's denial and/or a failure to understand that CP is harm. OP needs therapy, but so does her kid. People who like that shit aren't right in the head, and need professional help. I'm a cruel twist though, they can't really seek out help because even if they've not DONE anything, including viewing CP, they're gonna likely be reported to the government or someone otherwise be punished. But now that she's already suffering the repercussions, psychotherapy (from a good psychotherapist, not just a therapist or social worker) is the best thing for her. Also she should see a psychiatrist. The goal is to not repeat the bad stuff ever.

[–] Moosezapper@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wish it was but she really did love children. I remember when she was younger the way she would just melt when she was around young children. She was so naturally good with them I thought she would be a great mother some day.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can’t offer anything of advice, but as a mother it’s normal to want to fix the world around them. The pain comes through in your words. Have you considered getting some help for you? It’s a big issue and you are fragile to it to. Look after yourself.

[–] Moosezapper@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I don't know what type and even if I did I don't think she would go along with it. She doesn't like talking about what happened.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Moosezapper@aussie.zone 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh, sorry I got mixed up. Maybe it would be good for me to see someone. I have been under a lot of stress lately.

Definitely. And honestly, don't wait. I don't know where you live, but it can often take forever to get mental healthcare if it's not an "urgent case" (a fairly high bar to pass), so get started now. When I was in a very difficult situation I wish I had gotten help earlier (even though I can't really blame myself, but that's a whole other can of worms).

[–] Oka@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If i were in her shoes, id probably ask myself why id have or want those images. Maybe she was/is depressed before having the images, and getting caught was a sign she wanted help, and wasn't getting it by conventional means.

As the parent, I would avoid saying "she did this to us" and making yourselves out to be the victims. Its a terrible situation, but the more you separate from her and blame her, and outcast her from social circles, the worse your relationship will be, and the higher toll it will take on her psyche.

You've both been through enough. Work on getting past it with her.

[–] Moosezapper@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

"If i were in her shoes, id probably ask myself why id have or want those images."

I've wondered about this many times. I don't think I'll ever receive a straight answer.

"Maybe she was/is depressed before having the images, and getting caught was a sign she wanted help, and wasn’t getting it by conventional means."

Secretly collecting photos and then getting yourself imprisoned sounds like a pretty convoluted way to get therapy.

"As the parent, I would avoid saying “she did this to us” and making yourselves out to be the victims. Its a terrible situation, but the more you separate from her and blame her, and outcast her from social circles, the worse your relationship will be, and the higher toll it will take on her psyche."

I mean, I will put a curtain an amount of blame on her as she did willingly download those pictures and humiliate our family but we have forgiven her and I've never outcast from any social circles.

"You’ve both been through enough. Work on getting past it with her."

Thanks for your understanding. I have been thinking of ways she can get past this. The best way I can think of if she moves back to Spain and starts over with a blank slate.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Forgive me if this is a little insensitive, but I presume you're not here for a pat on the back...

How is it possible that she was released "last spring", has been living with you, but you still have absolutely no context?

What has happened with counselling? I'm sure it's practically mandated as part of her release. I'm also sure that any counsellor would try at least a few sessions with you and your daughter.

How did she acquire the CSAM? Did she produce it? How did the police become aware of her activities?

Finally, are you sure she was never a victim of abuse?

[–] Moosezapper@aussie.zone 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"Forgive me if this is a little insensitive, but I presume you’re not here for a pat on the back…"

I'm here to get stuff off my chest.

"How is it possible that she was released “last spring”, has been living with you, but you still have absolutely no context?"

It's so very uncomfortable subject for both of us and doesn't like talking about it. I don't even know how to bring it up.

"What has happened with counselling? I’m sure it’s practically mandated as part of her release. I’m also sure that any counsellor would try at least a few sessions with you and your daughter."

She is supposed to talk to a probation officer every now and then and the police have to check her electronics every month and she has to register to the local police. Those are the conditions to her relief release. I can try to get her on board with seeing a counsellor but it's an up hill battle.

"How did she acquire the CSAM? Did she produce it?"

The trial was short so they didn't go into specifics. If she produce it she would have seen a bunch of different charges. From what I can tell she downloaded it from the internet.

"How did the police become aware of her activities?"

Something about downloads and IP. Just a bunch of technical mumbo jumbo I'm too old to understand.

"Finally, are you sure she was never a victim of abuse?"

Yes, she wasn't particularly active in her younger years. I monitored everyone she spoke to online and she never had any boyfriends/girlfriends.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago

ok, well... to take a completely different tack:

She pretty much has no future and has destroyed her life. I let her live rent free as she's pretty much unemployable and has no chance of getting a secondary education unless she moves back to Spain but even then her convection is going to follow her like a shadow.

Your despair is certainly understandable, and while you're getting things off your chest I guess this kind of statement is perfectly reasonable.

However, if I said to my therapist "I have destroyed my life" they would say that's black and white thinking or binary thinking and lead me to identify areas of my life which are not in fact, destroyed.

The point is, to acknowledge that some areas of ones life may be problematic, may be even terrible... but your entire life is not destroyed.

I don't necessarily believe that a conviction needs to preclude any form of "work". Just as one example among many, it's absolutely possible to make money as a graphic designer online without having to pass a background check. There's almost infinite online content regarding how to learn this trade.

In any case, she's lucky she has you in her corner. I'm sorry this happened to her, and to you. Good luck.

"Finally, are you sure she was never a victim of abuse?"

Yes, she wasn't particularly active in her younger years. I monitored everyone she spoke to online and she never had any boyfriends/girlfriends.

That honestly doesn't mean much. Abuse can come from many sources. In many cases, the abuse comes from a family member. It also doesn't have to be sexual abuse, it could also be physical or mental abuse. And the person not being particularly active doesn't change much. In fact, it could make it easier for the abuser to keep things under wraps.

That being said, an abusive past is not an excuse for what she did, but more of something that can help understand the situation from a therapeutic perspective and help preventative efforts.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I read a similar story once where the guy got out of charges (2x) due to having a good lawyer. Dude even logged back in with same account and didnt get on sex offender list. In this case op daughter didnt fight it. In my opinion she felt really guilty or is protecting someone else from the charges that would have came to light with an investigation. Is there someone she would take the bullet for?

[–] Moosezapper@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

In order to be charged an investigation already needs to be done. The crime she was convicted of wouldn't require her to be a part of a larger ring but if she was and she really was covering for someone else I wouldn't be surprise. It sounds like something she would do. She's a very caring person.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I’m going to touch on is having completely destroyed her life.

Have a create a corporation. Then create an LLC under the corporation, put the whole thing into a trust. You will need an attorney to understand exactly how to do this. And then have it registered in certain states where they really value privacy. That way it’s hard to figure out certain things about that company. Wyoming is a very good state to do that in. You don’t have to be a resident of Wyoming.

An attorney will have to explain this more to you. I’m not an attorney. Now within that trust, have her create a business, an online business. Now she can conduct online sales. The police will still have to monitor her interactions and what she is doing. I’m not saying to have her break the law. I’m simply sayingthat the majority of the US will have no idea. Now she’s able to start making money.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

SOPO is UK law, OP is probably not in the US

[–] zewm@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

OPs home instance is Aussie.zone. I’m assuming they are in Australia?

[–] Moosezapper@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Thank you for the clarification. I would say contact an attorney and see if there’s similar abilities in your area.

I’m not saying break the law. I’m not saying don’t report to the probation officer.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Good point will follow up with them

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

alternatively, run for president

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

There’s always an option.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Didn't think I’d find a nonce using Wyoming law to circumvent SO registry ban lists in lemmy this quickly.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m not saying it’s good or bad, I’m just responding to the original poster of saying she can’t figure out a way to make money. I’m just saying hey there is a way to at least do it so at least she can make money , she still reporting to the authorities so can watch her online activity. It isn’t like she’s out there doing whatever she wants without oversight. The only thing that would change is the public would not realize that item they’re buying happens to be becoming from a sexual offender. And quite frankly, I’m sorry most people don’t care who the seller is. Not really. If they cared, they wouldn’t be buying from places like Apple or many other places that depend on slave labor. If they cared, they wouldn’t depend on places that will only pay their employees, barely minimum wage and then the employee has to live on welfare.

The sexual offender still has to report their activities to their parole officer. That doesn’t change.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 2 days ago

Now I need «Mute this post» option on lemmy.
Please don't apologize to me irt how customer abusers can circumvent bad publicity from active boycotts. With Ye West to Trump, I’ve had it.

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