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The Trump administration takes a very Orwellian turn (www.cnn.com)
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[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 14 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm gonna be honest, I think USA is lost.

It's not even a year, and they gutted it's systems, institutions and beliefs. Shaped people's minds and began intereference on international scale. Burned bridges, built walls and set up traps.

No matter what happens now, changes made by anything close to being "progressive" in USA system are too slow and, most probably, will fail to revert the changes. If they even get selected, or get a chance to be selected.

I am not from USA, but I am patriot for my country and seeing a huge, proud country like USA fall in such a short time is nothing but terrifying. A humble reminder of how brittle are the systems we create, and how much they rely on others "playing fair".

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 56 minutes ago

The US isn't collapsing in a short time this has been building for decades and is a prime example of an old quote "The fall of empires is slow right until it isn't". The fact of the matter is the collapse of the American Empire was inevitable since the Louisiana purchase, had expansion stopped at the Appalachian or at least slowed for longer the accumulated cracks could've been solved but alas that is long done history. Don't look at the US as a nation it's an empire originally built on a civic mythology the failure of the empire is directly correlated to the death of said civic mythology.

Anyways use the United States as the United States used the Roman Republic, an object lesson and a warning.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 50 minutes ago

The US has been declining for decades. It is now just accelerating as the cracks are reaching a critical level and the structural integrity of the entire system is collapsing.

This has been inevitable as the elites clinging to wealth and power only ever grabbed more of it, instead of relenting the injustice. In that sense it is also necessary for something better to be built after. Until then things will get worse at an accelerating pace, but the faster people step in and take back control, the fast this can be over.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 hour ago

A lot of people like to speculate about the future, but usually, it's meant to be a reassurance: "It couldn't happen here!"

It's often that we see that such speculation was horrendously naive. All of it was built on assumptions like "people can't be that stupid" or "people wouldn't just let that happen". Yeah. About that.

This may be basic stuff, but people tend to forget the basic stuff.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Fuck CNN.

"We've milked everything else long enough. Time to go to fearmongering."

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 20 points 4 hours ago

I don't think you know what "turn" means

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The scariest thing is not the pressure the White House put on the museum, it's the fact that they caved in.

I'm way more scared about all the people in public institutions bending the knee to the bully than the bully himself. The us population need examples of resistance to rise up as a people, and so far there are almost none.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 16 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The institutions insist he’ll be gone in 4 years and will go back to normal.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Even if the Drumpfster is gone in four years, it will probably take 100+ years to undo the dammage he did to the US and especially it's reputation.

Just look at what he has done so far, and realize that he has eight times longer remaining in this mandate period.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We HOPE only 8 times longer.

[–] flightyhobler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Actually, some of us hope for much less than that.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

We can't attack him apparently, but what if we make an organized effort against anyone who caves?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 105 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

“Turn”?

This is more like “full speed ahead on the course that anyone with a couple of brain cells to rub together could have predicted”.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, they turned a full 360 degrees.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 hours ago

The Orwellian Turn:

A looping black and white gif of a lady doing a figure skating spin

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago

Is this one of those things where a 1700s courier just delivered the news to CNN from the west and it just kind of takes 10 years to make it that far? Because where I've been sitting it looks slightly different.

[–] Luouth@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

And now Americans are witnessing the shitness caused by you, you massive orange cunt

[–] don@lemmy.ca 47 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska both worried that Trump’s move would make it so people can’t trust the data the administration is putting out.

lol the only ones who trust what the trump crime regime puts out are the ones who’d happily eat the rotten feces directly from his ass given the slightest of chances.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't Rand Paul that demagogue who was lying about taking horse tranquilizer for COVID?

[–] don@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Not horse tranquilizer, but dewormer, it seems.

Edit: a different source.

[–] char_stats@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 hours ago

As disgusting as accurate.

[–] swade2569@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago

"They did the thing we're now going to do. How awful they were."