The climbing gym is fucking packed though
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that would be different from a BAR /club area, where people go to pickup other people.
People are terrified.
Everyone is more subdued, people are going into debt as prices continue to shoot up when they're already stretched to their limit, and ice is kidnapping people willy nilly
Oh, plus tourism is basically over
All in all, this doesn't surprise me. Things are getting very bad
just look at vegas/reno, dead city, actually dying before trump came in, he just accelerated it, plus state schools in west coast was suffering enrollment problems for the whole pandemic as well(prior to trump), last article i read is the schools are so desperate they have becoming offering easy admissions to the schools to hs students if they complete minimum amount of these courses, i dont know how long this will last, from what ive gathered almost everyone who was in school during the pandemic had really negative experience(dint learn much) after graduating. and people's futures are uncertain as the schools arnt offering much in career development.
csu system felt like it was on the verge of collapse; i think only a few schools were not suffering severely.
UC doesnt seem to suffer the same effect though, at least not yet.
People are terrified.
Funny way to spell "poor."
Average people aren't nearly as worried about ICE as they should be, but people are definitely feeling the pinch of a dying middle-class and wealth inequality skyrocketing.
It's not just money. There's very real fear as well, it's both
Too fucking expensive.
And at least for me, I have little interest in alcohol-centric outings because transportation becomes an issue.
I imagine there's a lot less tourists since ICE started showing up in big numbers in LA. The presence of a large oppressice force also makes some question whether they want to go out or not, especially those close to the people who have been kidnapped.
not just ice, but border/custom detainment, requiring review of your phone of any anti-trump, anti-zionist material, which already deter tourist, plus canadians dont like trump constant messaging of invading thier country.
I mean here in Canada why would I go to a bar and spend like $12 on a single pint of beer when I can go to the store and pay the same amount and get like 6 pints?
Back in my 20's when I could go to the bar and pay $1.50 for a pint of PBR, sure it made sense. it was cheaper and i was with friends. I could get drunk on the cheap and have a good time.
now? there's no point. Cheap Dive bars (the ones I used to frequent) are going the way of the buffalo and in my city there's literally like only one left out of the dozens I used to go to all the time. I'm not paying over $10 for a single beer. Plus the patrons that still do go to bars are crap. they all would rather be on their phones then have a conversation at the bar.
so to sum up A. it's more expensive and B. younger generations killed the vibe.
In addition to Summer Student Season, I hear there's a lot of ICE pouring through LA this year.
You gotta watch out for that dangerous black ice, it’s transparent and sneaky
...Might help to mention what hemisphere you're in, or continent you're on? Or country? Or city?
The reason for your local change in nightlife could be anything from a wide, wide range of reasons, almost all of which depend heavily on where you are.
Let's not be like the uncouth Defaultist Americans that assume everybody in the world lives where they do. Let's be better, and let's provide a location when it's key info.
If you just looked at the replies you would think OP said they were on an expired visa in Los Angeles.
I get that the ICE situation is scary, but for most of the world, this isn't a concern, the world economy however is always shifting and America is definitely on a downturn, as wages stagnate and prices skyrocket even before the full weight of the tariff nonsense hits. I don't know about other countries, but the US is going to be just like every other developing nation with a vast swath of citizens living in shanties while a few dozen people hold ALL the money.
In many places, people are still going out and partying, but also in much of the world, the idea of "clubbing" isn't nearly as popular and people tend to gather in streets and neighborhoods to celebrate and get drunk.
Obviously from the US because they think every human is from the US.
Bloody US Defaultism 😒
Americans legit think the internet ends at their borders. Even relatively modern places like Bluesky are so infuriating for not understanding how internet works.
Many, many years ago, Pizza Hut announced ordering pizza online if one of their restaurants is within a certain range. We checked, we were in range, and ordered our pizzas.
Guess what? No pizza. We sent a mail, and we got a totally confused answer. Yes, that offer was for US based orders only (no mentioning of this on the web site, we had checked!). How the heck could we have internet outside the US? Our answer, that the web was actually developed in Europe confused him even more.
We got the offer that they would send us the order free of charge once they expanded the service to our place. So far, no pizza, even though they offer this service for a few years now...
Yeah they be from somewhere outside the united states like Hawaii
Sooooo fucking on point. If you arent a sports fan in my area you would be so curious of the same question depending on time of year or success of season. Super anecdotal but just 1 example of tons and tons of variables that effect the bar/restaurant/hospitality industry
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Nobody has money to burn.
I mean, I could go to a bar and get a $10 drink.
Or, I could have a whole-ass $11 bottle of wine, at home, in the quiet, with my dogs and a damn good book.
Trump economy. Enough said
It's bigger than one administration. Capitalism separates the majority of people from their wealth, which destroys their ability to go out to the club. All of that money you hear about that billionaires and even millionaires make is just the club money that you and I use to have. Now, instead of going to club, we sit in the dark and watch the ultrawealthy fly really high and call it space travel.
Everything that they have was taken from you and I.
thats why vegas/reno is also dead from what ive read on reddit(people are asking why it so dead). besides the tariffs/and detention of tourists which also is one primary reason. vegas is a failing city for quite a number of years already. losing out to ONLINE gaming, and sports isnt going to save the city if nobody is going there.
I've been reading this for the past 20 years online, and yet not a single fucking movement has done anything within my life to change this. And im sick of reading this, becuase so far no one wants to do anything about it.
You're preaching to the choir here.
Ive been patiently waiting for anyone to make a plan. Ive been told to WAKE UP SHEEPLE many times, but never once given any clue on what to do once awake.
Wish I could go back to sleep for a bit tbh
I know. I'm also sad.
Trump put a 100% tariff on fun.
More a tariff on life itself.
People just spent a few hundred dollars taking their families to watch the 2 biggest movies of the summer and now in 2 weeks the kids return to school and need supplies. Money is tight right now and priorities.
People just spent a few hundred dollars taking their families to watch the 2 biggest movies
Believable, this is why I pirate.
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It's a financial thing. There's a K shaped economy, with no middle class, and the lower class dealt with inflation for a while with credit card debt... and... those credit cards are filled up.
Middle class is still working class.
Stop doing this... its people vs the ultra wealthy... unless your less than 100 people your all the fucking same... they want people to feel divided, we are not... its rich assholes who are so morrally corupt and evil vs the rest of us...
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No money and too expensive. Your option for water is sold in a can that costs $5. Alcoholic drinks are almost double the price now. And at least for my city, the bar districts are now just full of assholes who post-pandemic seemed to forget how to act in public especially when alcohol is involved.
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of course they are all caught in the traffic jam at the Gotthard tunnel
I walk past a couple bars a lot and they seem to have the same amount of people. All the outside tables had folks last night.
I'm not going to bars because I'm unemployed. Like I say, if capital wants me to spend money they can give me some, first.
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Do you live in a college town?
I just read some article about how Germany has supposedly been experiencing a decline in the club scene for some years, and how there's a word for it.
kagi
Not the article I was thinking of, but the word is clubsterben.
https://www.dw.com/en/is-berlin-in-a-club-death-spiral/a-70341859
Is Berlin in a 'club death' spiral?
I'm a Kagi user and you still had me thinking that the German word was "kagi" for a moment there
I was at a packed one last night for my friends that were DJing. I didn’t drink there though to save money
bars and clubs run on disposable income.
I think the effects of tariffs and unemployment and everything are starting to be felt.
I've seen a small decline in busy days at local bars or restaurants. I also live near areas that depend on summer tourism, and that is way down.
Thing is, as that goes down, so do the revenues/employees. As that happens, places close or cut employees.
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