I imagine there's a lot less tourists since ICE started showing up in big numbers in LA. The presence of a large oppressice force also makes some question whether they want to go out or not, especially those close to the people who have been kidnapped.
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I mean here in Canada why would I go to a bar and spend like $12 on a single pint of beer when I can go to the store and pay the same amount and get like 6 pints?
Back in my 20's when I could go to the bar and pay $1.50 for a pint of PBR, sure it made sense. it was cheaper and i was with friends. I could get drunk on the cheap and have a good time.
now? there's no point. Cheap Dive bars (the ones I used to frequent) are going the way of the buffalo and in my city there's literally like only one left out of the dozens I used to go to all the time. I'm not paying over $10 for a single beer. Plus the patrons that still do go to bars are crap. they all would rather be on their phones then have a conversation at the bar.
so to sum up A. it's more expensive and B. younger generations killed the vibe.
...Might help to mention what hemisphere you're in, or continent you're on? Or country? Or city?
The reason for your local change in nightlife could be anything from a wide, wide range of reasons, almost all of which depend heavily on where you are.
Let's not be like the uncouth Defaultist Americans that assume everybody in the world lives where they do. Let's be better, and let's provide a location when it's key info.
Obviously from the US because they think every human is from the US.
Americans legit think the internet ends at their borders. Even relatively modern places like Bluesky are so infuriating for not understanding how internet works.
Many, many years ago, Pizza Hut announced ordering pizza online if one of their restaurants is within a certain range. We checked, we were in range, and ordered our pizzas.
Guess what? No pizza. We sent a mail, and we got a totally confused answer. Yes, that offer was for US based orders only (no mentioning of this on the web site, we had checked!). How the heck could we have internet outside the US? Our answer, that the web was actually developed in Europe confused him even more.
We got the offer that they would send us the order free of charge once they expanded the service to our place. So far, no pizza, even though they offer this service for a few years now...
Yeah they be from somewhere outside the united states like Hawaii
Or New Mexico.
Or New Vegas.
Ever since some courier showed up a few of the casinos are basically empty. Makes you wish for a Nuclear Winter.
Sooooo fucking on point. If you arent a sports fan in my area you would be so curious of the same question depending on time of year or success of season. Super anecdotal but just 1 example of tons and tons of variables that effect the bar/restaurant/hospitality industry
Los Angeles area
Lmfao I was hoping so much it would be not only a major US city but one of the largest culturally.
Internet never lets me down
You're welcome
Nailed it.
Nobody has money to burn.
People just spent a few hundred dollars taking their families to watch the 2 biggest movies of the summer and now in 2 weeks the kids return to school and need supplies. Money is tight right now and priorities.
Trump economy. Enough said
It's bigger than one administration. Capitalism separates the majority of people from their wealth, which destroys their ability to go out to the club. All of that money you hear about that billionaires and even millionaires make is just the club money that you and I use to have. Now, instead of going to club, we sit in the dark and watch the ultrawealthy fly really high and call it space travel.
Everything that they have was taken from you and I.
I've been reading this for the past 20 years online, and yet not a single fucking movement has done anything within my life to change this. And im sick of reading this, becuase so far no one wants to do anything about it.
You're preaching to the choir here.
I know. I'm also sad.
Trump put a 100% tariff on fun.
More a tariff on life itself.
of course they are all caught in the traffic jam at the Gotthard tunnel
No money and too expensive. Your option for water is sold in a can that costs $5. Alcoholic drinks are almost double the price now. And at least for my city, the bar districts are now just full of assholes who post-pandemic seemed to forget how to act in public especially when alcohol is involved.
Iirc, in the US (assumed due to "$"), any establishment that serves food or drink is required to provide free tap water.
Also, apply inflation to the fact that bars, and especially clubs, have always been expensive.
Also, "clubs are full of assholes" has been a meme since at least the 80s.
I think that's fairly common but not legally required, at least on a federal level.
You're mostly right, laws don't exist anymore though and when they did, there are plenty of carve outs for businesses.
I just read some article about how Germany has supposedly been experiencing a decline in the club scene for some years, and how there's a word for it.
kagi
Not the article I was thinking of, but the word is clubsterben.
https://www.dw.com/en/is-berlin-in-a-club-death-spiral/a-70341859
Is Berlin in a 'club death' spiral?
I'm a Kagi user and you still had me thinking that the German word was "kagi" for a moment there
It's a financial thing. There's a K shaped economy, with no middle class, and the lower class dealt with inflation for a while with credit card debt... and... those credit cards are filled up.
Middle class is still working class.
Stop doing this... its people vs the ultra wealthy... unless your less than 100 people your all the fucking same... they want people to feel divided, we are not... its rich assholes who are so morrally corupt and evil vs the rest of us...
We really are just one agreement away from rolling these fuckers
I walk past a couple bars a lot and they seem to have the same amount of people. All the outside tables had folks last night.
I'm not going to bars because I'm unemployed. Like I say, if capital wants me to spend money they can give me some, first.
Do you live in a college town?
bars and clubs run on disposable income.
No one wants some 20 year old jackass taping them for TikTok clout.
OP is asking about a change they noticed in the last few months. This has not changed in the last few months.
I was at a packed one last night for my friends that were DJing. I didn’t drink there though to save money
I think the effects of tariffs and unemployment and everything are starting to be felt.
I've seen a small decline in busy days at local bars or restaurants. I also live near areas that depend on summer tourism, and that is way down.
Thing is, as that goes down, so do the revenues/employees. As that happens, places close or cut employees.
In addition to the economy thing that everyone else has already pointed out (and is totally valid)
I think it's worth pointing out that in the northern hemisphere it's summer right now, so if that's where you're located there's a lot of people going on vacations and having parties right now.
My social circles aren't exactly rolling in it, but at any given time over the summer, there's still at least a couple people I know are the beach, camping, having a BBQ or bonfire, or hanging out at a pool somewhere on their downtime when they might have been at a bar or something otherwise.
If you live in a touristy area, yeah, that's the economy, bars should be booming there.
I remember a couple years ago on a whim a couple of friends and I decided to go to a bar that's usually packed with a line well out the door of people waiting to get it. But it just happened to be a holiday weekend so lots of people had other plans, and we got in no problem.
There’s an obvious answer here if you live in a College town/city.
Yeah, this is the obvious answer. OP lives in a city with one or more colleges. They went out in mid May, when all the students were finishing finals. Then they went out last night in July, when all the students are working summer jobs or internships or are back home.