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Chinwag's age verification process (chinwag.au)
submitted 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) by maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone to c/australia@aussie.zone
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To ensure compliance with upcoming Australian government regulations, Chinwag services qualifying as “social media” will have a minimum age restriction of 18 years for account holders, going forward. A verification process may be required for new accounts on creation, or retroactively for existing accounts if flagged. We will be working with a number of third-party age verification partners to implement our processes, many of whom have been operating in this space for a very long time.

If your account with a Chinwag service is flagged for verification, we are going to need you to bring us a bottle of gin (henceforth referred to as a “verification token” or “token”).

As the supply and sale of alcohol in Australia is well regulated and familiar to most citizens, we expect that this will pose a minimum of technical challenge to our users. Any of our age verification partners (such as Dan Murphy’s) will be more than capable of validating any person as over the age of 18 years and should have a readily available supply of verification tokens acceptable to Chinwag Communications, the possession of which will be considered as evidence that the account holder is a legal adult.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This is unironically a good method. It ensures privacy by breaking any traceability between a person getting verified and the verification being provided to a site. The verifier sees your ID and declares that yes, you are of legal age. They give you a token that says "the bearer of this token was verified". The token is provided to a site. The site can see that you were verified, but learns nothing more about you.

It's literally how blinded digital signatures would work, which should be the only way that this kind of thing gets done, if it really has to get done at all. Not uploading your photo ID directly to a site, or to a verifier who partners directly with the site. Certainly not completely unreliable face recognition bullshit. Or to make the analogy slightly more accurate, it would be like if you signed your username on an empty bottle, put the bottle in an opaque brown paper bag, took the bottle to the bottle-o, and they filled up the bottle with alcohol without removing it from the bag (so they can't read the username), after verifying your age. Obviously filling up empty containers isn't a thing bottle-os do, but hypothetically if it were, this would be the analogy.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 2 points 36 minutes ago

My main criticism would be that it's a money gate. It's a one-time cost and only about $10 for a tiny 50ml bottle, but there might be users who can't just throw money around that easily.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

ZK methods. Popular on blockchain.

(Zero knowledge)

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

This is satire I presume from the jokiness of the whole thing, but being able to obtain a token in person by just showing an ID (without any storage of data) would be a less intrusive method then the "have your ID and/or face collected and stored for an undisclosed period of time" approach. The latter of which has very obvious privacy and security risks.

[–] morebento@aussie.zone 7 points 11 hours ago

Finally a sensible approach

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 4 points 11 hours ago

Lovely page. I didn't know about Chinwag before.

I forget who was chatting to our admin a few months ago about Alcohol as a Verification if the government clamp down on Aussie Zone.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 11 hours ago

Elegant