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[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You're half right. White people are not superior. HOWEVER... Your argument as to why is complete trash. The Mongol empire as impressive as it was didn't touch SE Asia, India, most of Russia, the entire fucking continent of Africa, or anywhere not connected to Eurasia. Also it wasn't the Mongols who burned the great library of Alexandria.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

Where did I applaud the Mongols? Also, they burned the Library of Baghdad.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Rise of west is more attributed to the colonization no? They did have really good naval technology.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 5 points 3 hours ago

The Americans are doing something again aren't they

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The idea of 'superior genes' is a myth that flows out of noble class animal breeding

It was folded into 'divine right' as one of the many stupid reasons they justified their power and luxury

The rich bred dogs and horses and saw inheritable traits and then just applied that to people with zero actual understanding of biology and genetics.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

Behold the power of my ancestors to...digest lactose into adulthood.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 13 minutes ago

To be fair not all of us have that

[–] frog@feddit.uk 22 points 4 hours ago

I read a theory somewhere that the Mongols use of dead bodies as weapons is major factor creating the black plague.

This theory is on Wikipedia:

Some studies indicate the Black Death, which devastated Europe in the 1340s, may have traveled from China along the trade routes of the Mongol Empire. In 1347, the Genoese possessor of Caffa, a great trade emporium on the Crimean Peninsula, came under siege by an army of Mongol warriors under the command of Janibeg. After a protracted siege during which the Mongol army was reportedly withering from disease, they decided to use the infected corpses as a biological weapon. The corpses were catapulted over the city walls, infecting the inhabitants.[142][143] The Genoese traders fled, transferring the plague via their ships into the south of Europe, from where it rapidly spread. The total number of deaths worldwide from the pandemic is estimated at 75–200 million with up to 50 million deaths in Europe alone.[103]

Source: Wikipedia: Mongol Empire

[–] TheNamlessGuy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Sounds like superior luck genes to me 💪

Tap for spoilerObviously /s

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 20 points 5 hours ago

No one can claim superior jeans

My jeans are pretty awesome. They're actually durable, like good jeans should be. IDK what happened to Levi, but they suck these days. Don't know my brand off hand... Something Bay, or whatever.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, being spared the Mongol invasion was incidental at best. What really gave the Euros their kick-start was discovering a whole-ass continent filled with resources, and polities that did not have the capacity to resist the sudden introduction of Old World technology.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say with a self-administered grain of salt that colonialism didn't really matter that much to European development in the grand scheme of things. Really we're looking at the Renaissance and the beginnings of capitalism here. The only contemporary society that could've competed on both fronts was the formerly-Abbasid, formerly-proto-capitalist Middle East, but the Mongols heavily derailed that. I'm not sure how correct the post is in general, but it does bear thinking how the Renaissance would've went had Florence met a fate similar to Baghdad.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm a little tired right now and going to have a bit of a lay down, but I'd point out that Europe's increasing economic parity, and then slowly gaining economic superiority, over the rest of the world would have to be one hell of a coincidence to match up nearly perfectly with the discovery and exploitation of an entire continent's worth of resources. Vitally, the Americas provided Europe with trade goods (or the appropriate environment for growing them) that the rest of the world wanted - a recurring weakness of Europe in European history.

Also Real Mughal Hours

[–] brem@sh.itjust.works 31 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

My question is, where does one purchase a pair of superior jeans, and are they really as durable as the name implies?

...or is there some other aspect that makes said jeans superior?

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I like Edwin.

[–] milkisklim@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

My Jeans have an elastic waist. Do I have the superior jeans now ?

[–] brem@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, although you are now depriving yourself of having a superior belt, or; dare I say ... superior suspenders!!

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I have Jack and Jones jeans for years and haven't had a problem with them. They still look as new as on the day I bought them. Plus they're more affordable.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

where does one purchase a pair of superior jeans

China, ironically enough.

[–] brem@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

So that's why the Mongols invaded China!!!

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Japan has some good jean makers

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[–] potatoguy@potato-guy.space 19 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not one race, nor any race is better, if you believe one race is above others, if you believe skin colour is predictive of anything, you are the inferior person over all others, because you are an idiot for believing bullshit. You're not intelligent enough to get over propaganda.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

"White" is sort of inferior as a concept of a race, because it's not even a single race. Just whatever is convenient for racism. Sometimes, Jewish people are white, and sometimes they aren't, for example.

Race isn't actually a thing, it's a categorical method of sorting ethnicities into groups based on variable forms of bigotry.

[–] potatoguy@potato-guy.space 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Jewish people come from people who follow the religion, like ethiopian jews, who are persecuted and castrated in isreal, or arabic jews. There are a lot of different people in the world, being different ethnicities. Some jewesh people are white, some aren't, based on the parents/cultures they are brought in.

There's a clear sense in the general populace that whiteness is better, etc, and this is perpetrated from the eurocentric point of view, made for he whole world to "achieve", even if it's clearly bullshit, like indians (totally not because of the british (/s)) trying literally to wash their colours.

This doesn't even make sense, because we're all homo sapiens sapies, but who cares, some pieces of shit indoctrinated all societies with that crap to make more money (blacks and other ethnicities were seen as better at manual labour and violent, so it would be better to put them to work as slaves, not because of profit, but because of their inhereted bullshit i just invented).

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago (1 children)

Some jewesh people are white, some aren’t, based on the parents/cultures they are brought in.

That is simply not the way that "white" is used. The skin color is a convenient excuse, but being pale skinned is not ever sufficient to actually be white. For example, if you're an albino child of black parents, very few people will consider you to be "white". Similarly, there have been times historically where, if you're ethnically Jewish, no matter how pale your skin is, you will not be considered white. Other times, they get to be white.

There are incredibly pale skinned Indian and Chinese people who, despite being whiter than most "white" people, would still be excluded from being "white".

There is no definition of "white" that you can guarantee a person will be white simply by looking at their skin color. Skin color can only exclude people from being white.

[–] potatoguy@potato-guy.space 1 points 46 minutes ago (1 children)

My example included black jewish people (Ethiopian jews are NOT white in any sense of the word) and white jewish people.

There is no definition of “white” that you can guarantee a person will be white simply by looking at their skin color. Skin color can only exclude people from being white.

Exactly.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

The point is that you said "Some jewish people are white", but since we're talking about the definition of "white", that can't be true. They aren't white because they cannot be defined as white by looking at their skin color. If you simply meant "Some jewish people are pale skinned", then I'll just say that your phrasing was unintentionally misleading.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

You mean to tell me the glorious Empire could have tamed the european savages and we could have had a more peaceful world instead of the mess we have now?

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

American Eagle probably doesn't make good jeans. They didn't 20 years ago last i went in that store. I don't see why saying someone has good genes is inherently racist though. That model from the ad is proportioned in a way that sells clothes or whatever. I don't see how it's different than saying a body builder that is symmetrical and well proportioned has good genes. No one thinks it's racist to say Ronnie Coleman has good genes (and no one doubts it. ) Or LeBron James (whose son is also a pro athlete.) If AA had used a brown model the controversy would be the same except replace racist with great replacement. Outrage drives engagement and that sells pants. American Eagle is working hand in glove with Trump to distract from the disastrous economy and sex traffiking.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The language used on the ad isn’t racist.

Using language that sounds just like racist eugenics being told to viewers by a beautiful blond haired, blue eyed woman is a little suspicious or tone deaf.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It seems more likely to me that they were making a euphemistic pun about her breasts. What do they have to gain by going mask off?

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This already got them more attention than anything they’ve ever done before. I would say that it’s a net positive for them.

It is very much in character for white supremacists to claim innocence or do the “it’s just a joke bro” routine.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Totally agree on the second point. I wanted to say something along those lines in my original comment but couldn't get the wording right. Maybe AA will end up with a reverse Budweiser situation where they lose the liberal urbanites and the conservative rural people don't step in to save them.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Oh yeah Jewish people, known for being super lucky throughout history

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 3 points 1 hour ago

Luckier then Palestinians tho 'eh?

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Oh dear, a "Slavs aren't white" take.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't know about the Slavs, but tbf, the "white" race and the categorisation and conceptualisation of race itself has been arbitrary from the beginning. Not long ago, the Italians and Irish weren't considered white. Who goes where depends on the person making the categorisation. The English despised the Irish and Iberians, so both were lumped together as "Irish Iberian".

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

...and that's why Pizza is American food!

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