this post was submitted on 02 Aug 2025
216 points (98.6% liked)

World News

48840 readers
1777 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Nearly nine out of 10 Israeli military investigations into allegations of war crimes or abuses by its soldiers since the start of the war in Gaza have been closed without finding fault or left without resolution, according to a conflict monitor.

Unresolved investigations include the killing of at least 112 Palestinians queueing for flour in Gaza City in February 2024, Action on Armed Violence (AOAV) said, and an airstrike that killed 45 in an inferno at a tented camp in Rafah in May 2024.

Also unresolved is an inquiry into the killing of 31 Palestinians going to pick up food at a distribution point in Rafah on 1 June.

They were killed after Israeli forces opened fire, witnesses said. Shortly after, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said the reports were “false” but the IDF told the Guardian that the incident was “still under review”.

top 11 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 27 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Do you expect them to prosecute themselves? I don't even know what to say. I'm not shy of using strong language, but in this case I can't: my English is far from good enough to describe the intellectual profile of the people who expect Israel to prosecute their soldiers.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Do you expect them to prosecute themselves?

That is sort of how it’s supposed to work, yes. That’s how it’s supposed to work in any organisation.

A person doing a bad thing that gets reported should be investigated internally. They should take appropriate action based upon that investigation. The investigator(s) should be looking to protect the organisation by rooting out the bad apples.

Unfortunately, when too much of the barrel is bad the bad apples protect each other instead of the organisation.

In this case, so much of the organisation is bad that protecting the organisation requires that the bad apples be protected and shit gets covered up.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago

I still hear my government (Germany) making that trope when asked about yet another attrocity committed by Israeli forces or paramilitary forces.

Pretending Israel to be a functioning state of law is instrumental to pretending these actions are not systematic and done with full support and order by the government.

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That is sort of how it’s supposed to work, yes.

It never worked this way. Ever heard about a thief who punished himself? Or a corrupted politician who closed himself in prison?
You're talking about some fairy-land stories with rainbow ponies where there is no evil anyway.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You're talking about some fairy-land stories with rainbow ponies where there is no evil anyway.

I realise that what I’m talking about isn’t working in the IDF but your analogies are not right.

The military isn’t one person who’s turning themself in. It’s an organisation of many people so nobody would be punishing themselves.

It’s like a cashier being caught stealing from the cash drawer. They don’t punish themselves, their employer punishes them and possibly reports them to the police for further punishment.

That’s how it’s supposed to work but isn’t in this case because the whole military is on the same page.

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 1 points 9 hours ago

Still you want a thief guild to punish a thief for stealing.

What is happening is happening because it was a governmental requirement. Not some crazy soldiers decided to shoot civilians for their own amusement and by their own will.

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

It's fucking goddamn motherfucking horse shit! Goddamns monsters.

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 13 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, i'm kinda amazed that 12% weren't closed without charges. I wonder if anyone actually got punished or if they were charged but waived.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The 12% were charged for the war crimes not being severe enough.

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Punishment is to shoot more civilians

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago