Why even focus on whether they are ciminals? Shouldn't the first question be whether they were actually here illegally? I've read too many articles about people being deported who either were here legally or were following proper procedures for trying to become legal. E.g. Going in for interviews.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 18 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I don't think this poster is effective, I actually think it is unhelpful, my graphic design eye COMPLETELY focuses on the 7% of red people and ignores the rest of the information and worse this graphic doesn't contextualize how frequent violent crime offenses are when a random sample of US citizens are taken and examined.

If I was a bigot or even just a naive centrist I would see this poster, see the scary red people prominently displayed and conclude "7%!?! that is a LOT of criminals!" because NO context is given.

facepalm what is it with liberalism and unconciously undermining its own message?

[–] Kevlar21@piefed.social 7 points 13 hours ago

Wild that the source for this is the Cato Institute

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Most people view it as a rule of law thing. If you are here beyond your visa there are rules that say you should be deported. That has been ignored or dodged for a long time and we've built up a large number of illegal aliens that shouldn't be here. If we had enforcement all along it wouldn't be near as much of an issue as it is now.

I also understand that there needs to be actual due process for this and it's being bypassed for the majority of deportations now. It's a massive issue leading to things like those on court ordered deferments being taken illegally like Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

The biggest problem with the graphic is that "no convictions" doesn't mean no crime. Being here illegally is a crime.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Being here illegally is a crime.

Setting aside that legal immigrants and even US citizens are being targeted now, yes but who fucking cares? Being in the US illegally is against the law because the law is fucked up, not because you have a god-given right to tell people not to exist within the same half-continent as you.

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

I only say it because you have so many people indicated as not having been convicted of a crime but it is a crime to be here illegally, hence the illegally part. I'm just making the semantics point.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Is there a better source for this info? This sounds damning.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca -1 points 12 hours ago

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