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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Encryption. Is easy.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Wtf. Is Signal going to be affected? I just recently installed Signal on my phone.

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 6 points 1 hour ago

Signal has already stated that they will pull out of the UK if they go through with their version of this, I imagine they'll say the same for the EU.

Get a good VPN, exit it from a non-5 eyes country, and hope they don't start blocking by phone number alone.... and hopefully they'll drop the phone number requirement sooner than later.

Also, welcome to Signal!

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

time to make my own shitty ass software to deal with this stuff

[–] Mavytan@feddit.nl 37 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ugh, this shit again...

Are there any initiatives out there to call a stop to this? Or even better, initiatives to introduce legislation that forbids setting up this kind of surveillance infrastructure altogether?

[–] angelmountain@feddit.nl 3 points 1 hour ago

Your local Pirate Party and organizations like Bits of Freedom can help out.

[–] 332@feddit.nu 64 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Absolutely unacceptable and ridiculous.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

Keep them informed, of course they care about your opinion, especially seeing how anyplace else in the world where such things were introduced there were successful revolutions and people doing that ended up in jail. Oops.

[–] Keyboard@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago
[–] alvyn@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

The never stop trying. Fucking incompetent dumm politicians.

[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 25 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Zak@lemmy.world 44 points 6 hours ago

If you're a citizen of an EU country, you should contact your politicians to tell them not to, maybe they won't.

It only has to pass once, and they keep trying.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

With SKG going as well as it is, wouldn't an ECI on chat control be in order?

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

So, need a non-homicidal, non-EU country to run an XMPP server then...

[–] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge 8 points 4 hours ago

...run a country by myself? I suppose its possible.

[–] PleaseLetMeOut@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

So Canada?

(They do have a history of going a little overboard with the homicidal stuff. But they've come a long way in the last few decades.)

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'd almost say lol, get a VPS in China.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and they have zero say over what I do, only what they do. China could demand and scream and bitch all they want over an encrypted set of programs and you'd never have to care, move to another domain and provider and copy-paste. Lock it down, only use it with encryption and let the wolves huff and puff until they're blue in the face.

[–] PleaseLetMeOut@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 52 minutes ago

It's more about the latency since it's right over the border (<30ms). It's also a full 10Gbps so I can let family/friends use it and don't have to worry if a few of them are pulling the full 1Gbps from home connection. Doubt I'm gonna be able to match both of those with a Chinese VPS :/

Honestly looking at Mexican datacenters right now. Some are basically the same distance, just in the opposite direction lol

[–] buffing_lecturer@leminal.space 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

A lot overboard, really. There is a long way to go for truth and reconciliation.

As for data safety, its not looking too great: https://tuta.com/blog/canada-bill-c2-surveillance

[–] PleaseLetMeOut@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago

Oh ffs... my best VPN server is in Canada lol

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 34 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Their kind never leaves the chat, it's a professional habit

[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Hey at least Stasi only spied on people they suspected.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 hours ago

That's due to the limitation at the time.