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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 38 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Authoritarians are probably less likely to keep cats, either because they’re not obedient/useful or because keeping cats is coded as feminine and thus contemptible.

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[–] First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 59 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

I mean, ya gotta be careful. Are they conservative because they are lonely, or are they lonely because they are conservative

[–] socsa@piefed.social 13 points 15 hours ago

They are conservative because they are stupid

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 67 points 20 hours ago (9 children)

I suspect that women aren't dating conservative men, not because they want to punish them, but because they would personally rather not date a horrible person.

It's a pretty bad spiral. Lonely men develop more extremist views, which makes them less attractive to women, which makes them lonelier, and they get even more extremist views, etc.

Like, if you lined all of the single men up who vote against women's rights, and asked an equal number of women to sacrifice their own happiness to date them, a certain number of those horrible men would turn a corner and start to act like a human. But who is going to give up their own happiness to fix some broken asshole stranger? Very few people.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

You can't put that on the women. Men have got to get their shit together. Just show a bit of empathy, bro! It's not that hard, humans are literally wired for it. It's just that capitalism is reinforcing humankind's worst impulses.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 12 points 16 hours ago

There is a whole industries to radicalize men. They try to get them hooked with "women don't want to date me" and get them on the social media conveyor belt towards becoming a good right wing radical that's immune to any logic.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Men have got to get their shit together. Just show a bit of empathy, bro! It’s not that hard, humans are literally wired for it.

There's a concept from the autism community called the double empathy problem which posits that counter to the mainstream narrative that people with autism are lacking/missing empathy, autistic people do have empathy. The theory suggests that the brains of autistic individuals processes information and stimuli so dramatically differently from 'neurotypical' people that neurotypical people are typically unable to accurately understand what is going on in the neurodiverse mind and vice versa. It suggests that empathy seems to most easily work neurodiverse-to-neurodiverse and neurotypical-to-neurotypical which to me makes sense.

Now there are certainly plenty of people in the modern world who seem unable to display any form of empathy, but this theory does highlight that empathy isn't a binary and depends on your ability to understand the mind of another.

There is no single way to be empathetic, and it is entirely possible that one person thinks they are being empathetic when in fact they are being antagonistic to the other. My point is that empathy can look different to different groups.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

You can’t put that on the women.

I wasn't putting it on the women. The idea that women can have personal preferences and prefer certain men over others is not "putting it on the women". I think that sort of interpretation is dangerous thinking, the sort of thing a person would say if they saw themselves as an "incel".

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 4 points 15 hours ago

So it's a societal issue rather than men not pulling their bootstraps enough?

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 13 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Absolutely don’t put that on women, but it is a mental illness so you can’t ask them to get their shit together they need help.

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[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I suspect that women aren’t dating conservative men

Well, there are plenty of conservative women too, so that can't tell the whole story, can it?

Looks like conservative men and liberal women are in similar boats, statistically:

In broad terms, there are only 0.6 single liberal young men for each single liberal young woman; likewise, only 0.5 single conservative young women exist for every conservative young man. Statistically, in other words, about half of these ideologically minded young singles face the prospect of failing to find a partner who shares their politics.

This implies the liberal men are dating the conservative women, lol.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

a certain number of those horrible men would turn a corner and start to act like a human

over here in Real World Land, what will happen is those women will get abused, physically and sexually

these men have a violent hatred for women. they don’t need a girlfriend, they need therapy and, failing that, a life of imprisonment far from the people they’re a danger to

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

over here in Real World Land, what will happen is those women will get abused, physically and sexually

I wasn't talking about that because it was an impossible hypothetical designed to show one aspect. Just the idea of forcing women to date men is abusive in itself. You don't need to expound on the other consequences. It was already horrible, but I was making a point about something else.

It's like how people learn logic in elementary school. If I say, "Some birds are red," that doesn't imply that I'm saying, "No birds are blue". I said, "A certain number" of those men would turn a corner. That doesn't imply that "none" of those men would become abusive. In fact, conversely, the way that you're saying it could be read that you're saying "all" of those men would become abusive. I mean, that's what you're literally saying, but I'm sure you don't mean it, because I think there is nobody who would actually believe that.

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

It's both. Young men are being pushed right because much leftleaning messaging has decided to, uncharacteristically, broadly paint men in general as bad, instead of being more focused with their targets. This is unlike every other things where it fights against stereotyping.

The right is [falsely] promising solutions to their concerns.

The left is telling them it's their fault and to fuck off because other people have worse problems and blaming men [in general] for those other people's problems. And then wondering why they lost the young men in the last election. Young men are just as poor as everyone else, stop blaming them for shit old ass billionaires did before they were born.

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[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Am I an idiot? I read this as not a LITERAL cat...

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

you read right. i assume this is one of those apps that find random pics that vaguely relate to the words.

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

People usually want romantic partners to have a heart and a brain, and redhats and libertarians have neither.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

libertarians have neither

I would say that an ideology based on non-violence, choice and responsibility, with those being impossible to delegate, is exactly about having a heart and a brain at least potentially, unlike the rest.

In any case people who, I think, could be interested in dating me (maybe they were so strongly hinting at something else, but being autistic and very shy and lacking willpower, I'll never know) were of all kinds of political views. Some of those were even glad to hear about the libertarian kind of opinions. But importantly that wasn't the subject of our interactions.

So don't mix that American normalized intolerance with how women feel generally, please. Women are, ahem, as diverse as men.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

libertarians have neither

I would say that an ideology based on non-violence, choice and responsibility, with those being impossible to delegate, is exactly about having a heart and a brain at least potentially, unlike the rest

Lol what. That's not what libertarianism means in practice. In the real world it's always "I don't want to pay for other people, even if that means defunding the fire department so my house burns down".

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